STOLEN 21/12/12

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by adsgreen » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:05 pm

neckarsulm wrote:Check out this piece of rough justice - the scumbags got their just desserts in a stolen RS4 and in Birmingham too;
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/lo ... ple-342160
This is basically saying the got what they deserved.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by HYFR » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:10 pm

Yes but I am not neckarsulm

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by RIV » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:03 am

At the end of the day it wasn't there car, the passagers ran off,they could have killed an innocent member of the public, they got karma that day :boohoo:

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by adsgreen » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:29 am

Silas wrote:At the end of the day it wasn't there car, the passagers ran off,they could have killed an innocent member of the public, they got karma that day :boohoo:
If only life was so simple.
They could have but didn't
I'm not saying they were angels but saying 'karma' implies that anybody in possession of stolen property deserves / should die in a high impact collision.
Plenty of normal people in legitimately owned cars kill innocent people everyday from driving like a <beep>...

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by RIV » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:56 am

I didn't say they deserved to die, but rather them than innocent people, there's no way I'd stick up for scum that drive stolen cars :shock:

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by adsgreen » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:29 am

The point is 'karma' - or as interpreted by western cultures. 'What goes around comes around '... Implies what came around. (Death) was due by happening to be in a stolen car.

My point is that none of us know the truth or even the bare bones of that particular case so jumping to conclusions, assuming guilt and passing sentence by saying the deserved what they got or in this case deserved to die is quite scary.

To me this is just a slightly more civilised version if this
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20823531

No proof, no evidence, no due process.

Believe me - I'm not a left wing do gooder. I just think that guilt should not be assumed. Once proven then that's a different story. Hard labour all the way.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by RIV » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:36 am

I'm not saying they were angels but saying 'karma' implies that anybody in possession of stolen property deserves / should die in a high impact collision.
They were not my words, I did not say anybody, maybe this should be put to bed,agree to disagree

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by adsgreen » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:39 am

Forgive me but I'm curious to understand your perspective on 'karma' ad you first used the word in this conversation.
My simplistic 'my name is earl' view is 'do bad things, bad things happen'.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by RIV » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:47 am

Yes you steal my car you crash and kill yourself, your tough luck

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by RS6chris! » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:23 am

Silas wrote:Yes you steal my car you crash and kill yourself, your tough luck

This!!!!... Hopefully very painfully maybe involving fire!!
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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by adsgreen » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:52 am

RS6chris! wrote:
Silas wrote:Yes you steal my car you crash and kill yourself, your tough luck

This!!!!... Hopefully very painfully maybe involving fire!!
Missing the point - the car was reported stolen over a year ago.
In 12 months that car could have changed hands several times with or without knowledge the car was stolen.
As such there is no proof that the men who died nicked the car or even knew it was stolen. And yet people seem to say its enough that they were travellers that its all ok.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by Nickyboy » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:34 am

Think you're just going to have to move on from this one ads.
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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by kd » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:30 am

Very sorry to hear about your ordeal. It is such a shame you work hard to enjoy pleasures such as nice cars but have to keep one eye open. I live in south London surrounded by some nasty estates and so far very lucky with all my cars but I think with me not having parking near me I have a new spot most evenings on various roads. I would have hated to go through what you did and so best of luck to you.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by MikeFish » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:01 pm

adsgreen wrote:
the car was reported stolen over a year ago.
In 12 months that car could have changed hands several times with or without knowledge the car was stolen.
The crash was also over a year ago though.

The car was stolen in April 2011 and the crash was in July 2011.

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Re: STOLEN 21/12/12

Post by vantage828 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:42 pm

D_K wrote:We are taking about Pikeys here Ads
Would agree. Pikeys are some of the shrewdest and unscrupulous mofos I have come across. Its pretty damn obvious they knew the car was stolen. To believe otherwise is laughable.

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