Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr V10 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:06 pm

LOL
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by sonny » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:24 pm

Found it...

throwing a big spanner in the works lol

http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... ng#p382900
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr Footlong » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:02 pm

I added mine in for the sheer bloody hell of it as everyone was putting down all sorts of different guff. I did state for Carbotech, not that they applied to everything. Anyway, Pagid pads are a great big bag of <beep>. I am using them currently and cannot fathom how any of you are driving around on them with any sense of safety when driving sportily.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Nobby » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:05 pm

What types of Pagid are you using Footers - 'eurocarparts' OE ones or Blue/Black/Orange/Grey/Yellows?
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr Footlong » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:53 pm

Audi OE ones if memory serves. Only in there as a temporary measure. The carbotechs utterly destroy them for performance when not destroying my ears (on my car at least)
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr V10 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:03 pm

Not all Pagids are crap, the RS range is supposed to be superb. But I agree the OE ones are utter crap. Grizz reckons they're a different compound to the genuine Audi Pagid pads.
Footers - Aren't you rocking Mintex pads? Which are probably sold as 'Audi OE' quality, but the Pagid are Audi OE, as Pagid supply Audi OEM. I hope that makes sense.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by bam_bam » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:04 pm

Amar wrote:I hope that makes sense.
No.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr V10 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:06 pm

bam_bam wrote:
Amar wrote:I hope that makes sense.
No.
Well, then, now you know how the OP feels.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:08 pm

Don't confuse the OE pagids and the "ECP" pagids which are completely different.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by bam_bam » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:08 pm

Amar wrote:
bam_bam wrote:
Amar wrote:I hope that makes sense.
No.
Well, then, now you know how the OP feels.
This.
bam_bam wrote:
rob8457 wrote:See what i mean everyone says different come on Footlong - Bam bam - Shoppinit put me right hear as still confused.com

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Footlong should be discounted (no offence) as he is referring to CarbonTech.
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Mr Footlong » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:07 pm

Amar, not a moron dear, I binned the Mingetex pads a long, long time ago. This was after I had raped them so badly that every single pad was cracked through in multiple places. They were trashed after sub-1500 miles and the guy that took them out had never seen such battered pads after such a short run time :).
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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by adsgreen » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:45 pm

rossi46 wrote:FWIW, Audi told me the following ;

Suggested procedure for fast road/track use ;
60mph > 20mph Light braking , 50 times
60mph > 20mph hard braking (no abs) 50 times
60mph > 20mph hard braking (ensuring abs kicks in) 10 times
A 2min gap between EACH run is required.
Holy crap thats a bit... excessive.
110 braking applications??!?

As for abs kicking in - that goes against decades of what I've been taught and personally advise.
60-20 is just such a short window.
as for 2mins between each one...

Just completely impractical.

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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by rob8457 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:52 pm

Gonna do it this evening when quiet, this is what im going to do....
Warm up brakes with some gentle braking for about 5min at slow speeds
then do 5 x 60mph to 5mph braking then 5 min cool down then repeat the procedure again then cool for 5 min
then will do 3 x 90mph to 50mph then let brakes cool down, hopefully then it will be ok.
Thanks for everyones input it was interesting of how different peoples opions are.

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Re: Bedding in new brakes and discs what procedure?

Post by Revolvo » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:45 pm

I love the search function......

Right, gonna bed my new front brakes in before my 350km autobahn run tomorrow evening.

So, new brakes, new gearbox bits and pieces, full service and the only things now needed are new lambda sensors and another more detailed look at the radiator.

OEM discs and pads fitted by friendly AUDI dealer. Would it typical or ironic if I run off the road after having them newly fitted? Can't really tell after reading these posts on bedding in.

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