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Post by the6 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:04 pm

This is interesting as I was only today thinking what mine is worth now??....As below but just had front disk and pads done ("+" disks) and just done the cam belt 2K ago...Hmmm I wonder, be nice if it hit the £20K mark :oops: :lol:

£30K then seeing as that should fit in nicely with this thread :P

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Post by bam_bam » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:13 pm

I bought Darth on heart, it was the second '6 I'd seen and I knew it was looked after, I had a good rapport with the owner. I knew it was driven hard but never put away wet (I'd done my research). However, it ticke most boxes. My original car choice was a 933 but I just couldn't get past the age and the lack of comforts (satnav, heated and most of all space). Then it occurred to me that I'd not be 'sharing' with a 993, it's a small car and there's zero chance of a rugby road trip in it. I still want a 993, I still think it's the mutts nuts. That shape, that sound and that air-cooled sewing machine hanging over the back wheels is all wrong but I still love it. But it'd be a lonely ownership. That's what swayed it. What I did note though, was, there were very few good 993's to choose from and while I was looking, they were appreciating. Strange occurrence but maybe it'll happen the C5 RS5.

I guess we buy these RS6's due their ability to perform almost all tasks, mostly well.
I had a budget of 17k and I would've bought the car I did even if it was posted for more (it was a condition, colour, interior colour, options and sunroof thang). That money for 4.5secs, 5 seats, comforts and build, easy decision. I'm probably not speaking for everyone but I think these cars choose you. If you really want it, you'll pay more. You buy with the heart.
...and then there's circumstances, it's about options, if you have a broad range to choose from, you take your time, if you've few options and little time it's a different story. If you need money fast, you prostitute whatever you're selling for whatever you can get. Surely we all know this.

I know I'm in this for the long haul, I was well aware this was a petrol guzzling, big service bill inducing bruiser. But it seems some people were in love with the idea of owning a '6, but, the actually ownership ain't the dream. So the owners panic and the poor '6 gets sold cheap and the long termers get upset for devaluation. It's the way it is but it won't be like that for long, petrol engines are not long for this world and I know, for one, will miss the f*%k out of them. I'm enjoying it now.

Rant. Over.

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Post by alpinestars » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:43 pm

Really don't see the point in this post.

Let the guy sell his car, if it's overpriced, the market will tell him that. Seems many on this board want it both ways, if a car is priced too low, there is a groan about the effect it will have on the value of our cars. In this case, if it appears it's priced too high, the guy gets a slating :( .

Book is absolutely irrelevant and a trader tool to take the *iss. The market will decide the price.

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Post by HYFR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:52 pm

surely the market dictates book...

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Post by ecain63 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:36 pm

DK. why are you so obsessed with book pricing? No offence intended in that comment btw.

Book price is purely based on age vs mileage vs condition. It has a relevance to trade-in, but for the private seller it takes no notice of brand, service history, niggles removed vs niggles present, options etc. Yes, a desperate seller may have to lower his price to please the 'buyers market' in order to get a quick sale, but i think we should be standing our ground here and keep the 6 in a 'sellers market'. Why should we sell at rediculously low prices to people who dont have a clue about running a car of this type and will end up selling it on again at an even lower price to avoid huge bills (this is the reason why our cars are in the price band they currently are)? We should only sell if the offer made is right for the seller. You wouldnt sell your house for a huge loss would you?
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Post by HYFR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:50 pm

ecain63 wrote:DK. why are you so obsessed with book pricing? No offence intended in that comment btw.
im not :D

but it is a useful tool to guage prices

i think where you have a rare car in amazing condition and amazing history, book price is not relevant, but give you a good base upon which to build your premium

but there you have a 118k re-sprayed car, i think book price is a good indication as to how much its worth, as the premium a buyer can put on his sale is quite small

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Post by ecain63 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:05 pm

Agreed. The example in the original post is not a good one so maybe its best that it goes for a low price then goes for scrap. The fewer dogs like this there are out there, the better for us.
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Post by Golfather » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:12 pm

alpinestars wrote: Book is absolutely irrelevant.... ...The market will decide the price.
LOL !!
Its the same thing, where do you think the book values come from ?!

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Post by alpinestars » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:05 pm

Granted, Glasses etc does gather data from past sales, but it does not dictate the price of a car sold privately, or even in the trade. If the trade price is genuinely under £10k, I'd challenge you to find me some examples for sale at that price right now (not an isolated one).

Much more relevant is what is on the market right now. It's totally academic quoting a price guide if you can't find cars for sale at that price.

Notwithstanding any of the above, surely a guy trying to sell his car, for a price some of us think is too high, doesn't really warrant a post slagging the car off?

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Post by Sims » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:19 pm

alpinestars wrote:....... surely a guy trying to sell his car, for a price some of us think is too high, doesn't really warrant a post slagging the car off?
Well said, and in fact it is wrong to influence/jeopardise the sale. Market forces decide.

Sorry DK, I have to diagree with you on this one.

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Post by HYFR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:32 pm

im not slagging the car off, im simply stating its massively over priced, why is that simple fact so difficult to digest ?!

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Post by HYFR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:45 pm

alpinestars wrote:Granted, Glasses etc does gather data from past sales, but it does not dictate the price of a car sold privately, or even in the trade.
with respect, i think your misguided there...

Interestingly, my Glasses link doesnt hold any values for the RS 4 b5. Proving the point that at the stage of life the B5 is, its very difficult to value given the varying of condition etc

The RS 6 will go this way also, whereby A1 cars move away from book pricing, and then they too will be removed from Glasses....

but I dont think we are there just yet, but not long I recon

So, if you hold on in there, alas there will be no more "book" price to argue against !!

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Post by drybeer » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:18 pm

Rs4 b5 was never in the guide. I suspected due to the low number registered
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