Drove a B7 today! Do I sell my B5 for one?

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Post by Contigo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Agreed, very well reasoned and so true about the FSI engine. The B7 on the rolling road is a joke and it's an embarrasment to Audi. Everytime one runs it never achieves the correct figures.
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Post by lengster1 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:39 pm

Some rose tinted glasses fitted me thinks,4 n half years of b5 ownership included turbos, clutch ,gearbox, rebuildx2, multiple sensors,boost leaks,3 autochangers etc etc not forgetting chocolate cams,im not so sure the b5 is exactly a class winner over a b7 in terms of issues?????? A decoke on a b7 will take me as long as it did to fit 2 new lambda probes on the b5 should it ever need it,given the b7 gimmiks it kinda makes me why they are getting fitted to b5s (brakes steering wheel rnse etc) come on guys i love the b5 it rocks suggesting the b5 is some bombproof hassle free motoring is erm a little optomistic,they do handle ok when upgraded but no better than ok and you suffer a hard/harsh ride to get that improvent (std set up was nigh on useless) drc gives you the best of both worlds its a great car to drive all day everyday if you wish,sure audi should have got it sorted years ago but extending the warranty helps somewhat,look at the lap times b7 can achieve enough said me thinks,id have another b5 anyday but not as a daily driver theres better allround packages out there imo,fully understand the weekend car thing as thats was mine was for the last few years

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Post by Contigo » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:29 pm

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's as simple as that.
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Post by neckarsulm » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:54 am

To confuse matters I am on the verge of buying a B7 S4 Avant.
No FSI so no coking, no DRC to worry about.
344bhp isn't that much behind what most B7 RS4s produce.
Having driven it, it doesn't seem much slower than my RS4 and even if it is, the far more poised chassis makes up for it.
To top it all off I may get more for my RS4.
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Post by sonny » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:23 pm

lengster1 wrote:Some rose tinted glasses fitted me thinks,4 n half years of b5 ownership included turbos, clutch ,gearbox, rebuildx2, multiple sensors,boost leaks,3 autochangers etc etc not forgetting chocolate cams,im not so sure the b5 is exactly a class winner over a b7 in terms of issues?????? A decoke on a b7 will take me as long as it did to fit 2 new lambda probes on the b5 should it ever need it,given the b7 gimmiks it kinda makes me why they are getting fitted to b5s (brakes steering wheel rnse etc) come on guys i love the b5 it rocks suggesting the b5 is some bombproof hassle free motoring is erm a little optomistic,they do handle ok when upgraded but no better than ok and you suffer a hard/harsh ride to get that improvent (std set up was nigh on useless) drc gives you the best of both worlds its a great car to drive all day everyday if you wish,sure audi should have got it sorted years ago but extending the warranty helps somewhat,look at the lap times b7 can achieve enough said me thinks,id have another b5 anyday but not as a daily driver theres better allround packages out there imo,fully understand the weekend car thing as thats was mine was for the last few years

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Post by Contigo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:27 pm

neckarsulm wrote:To confuse matters I am on the verge of buying a B7 S4 Avant.
No FSI so no coking, no DRC to worry about.
344bhp isn't that much behind what most B7 RS4s produce.
Having driven it, it doesn't seem much slower than my RS4 and even if it is, the far more poised chassis makes up for it.
To top it all off I may get more for my RS4.
Nowhere near as special though.
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Post by neckarsulm » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:20 pm

Nowhere near as special though.
I agree but for the money it's a amazing car and I see far fewer than I do B7 RS4s so it's still quite 'special'.
After 3 years + with 2.7T B5s I think it's time to move on :cry:
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Post by Contigo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:00 pm

But you've only just got another one? I'm keeping mine until something better comes along.
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Post by eyeball » Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:46 pm

Happy new year to you phil. I trust you and your family have had a pleasent one. So what do you think will be a better car cos I think you'll find it hard to move on from you RS mate???

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Post by Contigo » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:31 pm

That's the point mate, nothing better is going to come along! :D

I'll call you soon mate, it's been a mad one and got some catching up to do.
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Post by eyeball » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:28 pm

Correct answer mate!!lol
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Post by roi354 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:28 am

To add my 2p:

I think my B5 is probably the best all rounder I have ever owned. It ticks so many boxes: acceleration, grip, comfort, presence, stealth, prestige, practicality etc etc.

When I bought it I wanted an all rounder but wanted to grow up (30 now) from all the cossies and subarus I had been through previously. The B5 seemed - at the price level - to be the absolute best. The other factor was value i.e. running costs/depreciation. The idea of spending more on a B7 and knowing that it was going to lose a significant amount of money meant that it was out of the equation.

I don't doubt that the B7 is an incredible car but having not driven one, I can't comment. I'm just airing my feelings toward the B5.

Now, while the B5 is still a superb car, I feel that I haven't grown up and its just a little too civilised for me. I have also realised that what I don't need is an all rounder :roll: Typical, I find out the hard way.

What I need is something cheap to take me to work and to keep the B5 for nice weekends. My only concern is that I'm not going to want to use a civilised 5 door estate car that is quiet, comfy and understated when those weekends arrive... I want an impractical, shouty car instead 8)

... Hence my recent post asking what the general concensus is to the current value of my car.

I admire those of you who wish to keep your cars for weekend use only, but its not for me.

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Post by SimonC » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:26 am

"Weekend use" for me sometimes involves longish journeys, a dog in the boot, the occasional autobahn journey, ski trips, etc. I think the idea of keeping a car for best is a great one - I can run another car for the money saved. It also means I will keep the nice car for longer - it feels incredible every time I drive it, it's hardly depreciating and I'm doing about 8000 miles a year.

The B7 S4 has the benefit of almost a decade of evolution so must be better in many ways (standard technology, ICE, rear legroom, safety, seats) and the standard performance will be more than enough for most RS4 owners - I rarely use all of the horses. It's certainly something I have considered, especially if I could do a straight swap.

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Post by RS4Kev » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:42 am

A little update. Yesterday i finally managed to look at a B7 at Poole Audi. I'd been out driving our R32 for a while and was moaning to myself about the seat comfort. The B7 has the bucket seats......and they feel exactly the same to me. So that's the end of that idea. I know there are ones without bucket seats about but i've seen nothing close to me on that front.

oh well, plan B i suppose.
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Post by RS4KILLA » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:20 pm

sold my b5 rs4 last week missing it already!!!
B5 S4 KO'4 black saloon sunroof......
B5 RS4 Goodwood Green,sunroof, nav tv, short shifter,
B5 S4 Nogaro saloon
B5 S4 Black saloon,
B5 RS4 Goodwood Green,
B5 RS4 Misano red,
B5 RS4 noggy blue,
B7 RS4 Sprint Blue.
B5 RS4 avus silver

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