Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

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Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by mattykerby01 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:06 pm

Hi Guys,

Think my pump has packed up !

17831 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 1: Insufficient Flow
P1423 - 35-00 - -
17819 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 2: Insufficient Flow
P1411 - 35-00 - -

Is this a problem ? can i run ok without it ?

Many thanks

Matt

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RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by TopBear » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:44 pm

Any other info? like has it become noiser recently, has there been any related codes before, have both codes just appeared at the same time? Do you get the EML light on?

You can run fine without it AFAIK, as its only used during warm up anyway, in fact a few RS4 owners have ripped the SAI system out completely.

You can test it out manually even when warm by initiating the SAI pump using by measuring block '76' (if I remember correctly)

I wonder if it's just happened, is there perhaps a seperate fuse for the SAI pump?
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RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by mattykerby01 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:20 pm

Yeah, the pump started to get really noisy on start up ! and yes EML on..

So do you think the car will be ok without it ? any tips on stopping the EML ?

Many thanks

Matt

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RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by davs4 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:57 pm

Deleted my system, no problems :thumbs:

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RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by neckarsulm » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:08 pm

Mine does that though no MIL.
I am going to crack it and fix it as my pump is new and works well so I suspect the vac pipe from the control valve.
It must be something common to each bank.
Don't you delete guys care about the environment?!
Surely the Euro IV emissions regs that all this cr4p came in because of was drawn up for a reason and not just to fill the time of Brussels bureaucrats and ecomentalists? ;)
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Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by davs4 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:06 pm

neckarsulm wrote: Don't you delete guys care about the environment?!
Nope. Got no cats either :D

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Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by TopBear » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:22 pm

davs4 wrote:
neckarsulm wrote: Don't you delete guys care about the environment?!
Nope. Got no cats either :D
Ooooh, your deffo going to the 'bad fire'!! :lol:
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RE: Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by davs4 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:26 pm

Yes I will. LOL

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Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by missmouse » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:38 pm

neckarsulm wrote:Mine does that though no MIL.
I am going to crack it and fix it as my pump is new and works well so I suspect the vac pipe from the control valve.
It must be something common to each bank.
Don't you delete guys care about the environment?!
Surely the Euro IV emissions regs that all this cr4p came in because of was drawn up for a reason and not just to fill the time of Brussels bureaucrats and ecomentalists? ;)
are you for real????????????
surely you dont believe in all this global warming BS?
Its all a conspiricy to raise taxes!

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Post by neckarsulm » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:50 pm

are you for real????????????
err..no.. that's what the ;) was for
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RE: Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by mattykerby01 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:56 pm

Hi Guys,

Engine management light keeps coming on with this disconnected, any ideas how to stop it ?

Thanks

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RE: Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by missmouse » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:17 pm

Funny, mine doesnt & I pulled the connector on the air pump on mine. If I vag com for engine faults it shows up then.

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RE: Re: RE: Secondary Air Injection System - knackered ?

Post by TopBear » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:21 pm

Not 100% sure, but I think it will only throw the EML on after a few days (of cold starts), rather than just each time the SAI fault is logged.
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