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Post by Mike159 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:18 pm

The only thing I can think happened is it was done with esp on, and with 1 of the tyres being a lot lower than the other 3 it backed the power off in the same way it does when going very quick round bends with it still fully planted. Although all should be revealed by the end of the week.

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Post by pippyrips » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:32 pm

Blue_Thunder wrote:
SR71 wrote:Thats at the wheels surely?
It was 303bhp at the flywheel!


(cough)

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Post by SR71 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:46 pm

LOL........ not exactly words to that effect!! As it stands at present they don’t see it as being a major problem if it's not effecting the drive of the car, i.e misfiring etc. What they are looking to do is open up a RS4 they have with around 20k on the clock and see what's going on in there.
Aren't cars in the US mis-firing on account of the issue or don't they count?

Why not save them the bother and post pippyrip's pictures? His car has 19K on it. Even better, send them Caldy's pictures. He has 3K on his car.
But unfortunately for now they don’t see it as a major problem.
What a surprise.

Curiously, at what point would they consider the issue a major problem?
I questioned that in the long run it would get worse and damage the engine?? the reply was that Audi would be more worried about the effects of spraying substances such as Wynns or remapping the cars in the long run far more than this......
What do they suggest then?

Just leave the car to coke/oil itself up???
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Post by PetrolDave » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:13 pm

Blue_Thunder wrote:The other 12 cars running (B5's, C5, C6 and a Porsche) on the day all produced expected figures, so i've no reason to see why the B7 result would have been inaccurate.
How many of them were 4WD?

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Post by scaghead » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:25 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
Blue_Thunder wrote:The other 12 cars running (B5's, C5, C6 and a Porsche) on the day all produced expected figures, so i've no reason to see why the B7 result would have been inaccurate.
How many of them were 4WD?
good point

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Post by SR71 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:44 pm

4WD?

B5's, C5's and C6's are all 4WD.

:?:
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Post by P_G » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:41 am

Blue_Thunder wrote:
SR71 wrote:Thats at the wheels surely?
It was 303bhp at the flywheel!

The other 12 cars running (B5's, C5, C6 and a Porsche) on the day all produced expected figures, so i've no reason to see why the B7 result would have been inaccurate.

My B5 produced 411bhp which was only 3bhp off the figure calculated by dividing my peak MAF reading (which I took during my RR run) by 0.8. A rough rule of thumb MRC use for the B5's.
You had a C6 RS6 that priduced on an r/r its quoted output?

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Post by tanner » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:04 am

Keeping tabs on this thread, have a 2.0TFSI and this past winter it has been having some hesitations with a misfire back in early December. Haven't had a misfire since then but I noticed that shortly after the car starts up it seems to skip a beat but runs fine afterward.

Of course my warranty expired and I never got around to getting the CPO warranty. Appears that the bill to do whatever cleaning procedure is $400USD on a A4 3.2FSI.

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Post by PetrolDave » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:47 pm

SR71 wrote:4WD?

B5's, C5's and C6's are all 4WD.

:?:
The majority of B5 A4's are NOT 4WD, only some are quattro - the B5 S4 and B5 RS4 are 4WD but the post just says B5...

Similarly most C5 and C6 A6's are NOT 4WD, with the exception of the S6 and RS6 - but the post just says C5 & C6...

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Post by simonhill » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Any photo's of the higher mileage cars yet?

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Post by booski » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:04 pm

PetrolDave wrote:
SR71 wrote:4WD?

B5's, C5's and C6's are all 4WD.

:?:
The majority of B5 A4's are NOT 4WD, only some are quattro - the B5 S4 and B5 RS4 are 4WD but the post just says B5...

Similarly most C5 and C6 A6's are NOT 4WD, with the exception of the S6 and RS6 - but the post just says C5 & C6...
Agreed most aren't 4WD but surely the B5's, C5 and C6's that people would bother to RR would be S4, RS4, S6 or RS6?
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Post by duud40 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:57 pm

Why would it be different on awd cars? Does the drivetrain loss get greater in time? Do all audi awd have lower engine output than 2wd?

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Post by duud40 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:00 pm

I believe 4wd power loss is greater than 2wd loss. I also believe 2 same drivetrains would not differ in loss by over 10%

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Post by Jezzer » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:03 am

Looks like an Audi dealership here recognises the problem and has cleaned the inlet manifold and valves on someones RS4

http://audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120602
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Post by sonny » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:00 pm

Jezzer wrote:Looks like an Audi dealership here recognises the problem and has cleaned the inlet manifold and valves on someones RS4

http://audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120602
Interesting read.

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