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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Lig » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:33 pm

Strange one that Fen, mine has no interference at all - it sounds as good if not better (if thats possible) than the CD player.

It also searches through tracks just fine, quicker than the CD search......maybe the faster the car the faster the search....you did say it was a diesel....:lol:

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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Fen » Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:27 pm

It was a tuned 530d so it wasn't all that slow albeit hardly in the RS league.

It was however a good couple of years ago so maybe the kit has improved or maybe it integrates better with Audi than BMW head units.
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by nrf » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:20 pm

I have been speaking to ipodcarkitdirect.com about this. They said that the Denison that you plug in to the cd won't work and that you have to use the one that plugs in via the aerial (so fm signal, but a bit more reliable than those naff transmitter ones). I suspect that if you use this type you are more likely to get ignition interference too (Possibly your problem on the BM Fen?)
I suspect that he said they can't be used as you don't get full functionality as you say Lig. Which model Denison do you have by the way? Denison also do something called a CD retention module (http://www.ipodcarkitdirect.co.uk/Audi_CD_Retention_Kit) which means you can keep the cd player too. God knows if it will work on your set up though Lig. If I trusted my ability to wire everything in properly I'd be tempted to give it a go but doubt I'd find the right wires to connect the power to!

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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Fen » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:43 pm

My Dension was an ICE>Link PLus and it used the BM's CD connection which is why I was so surprised it whined. I replaced it with a HArman Kardon Drive+Play that did use an in-line FM module and it was better. Ultimately I got an Intravee which was brilliant and also allowed me to add DAB radio.
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by philroach » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:43 pm

are we saying that none of these are simply plug and play , in place of the multi cd player ?
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Lig » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:02 pm

Hi all,

Phil - Mine is the Ice Link Plus v2.x (thats what it says on the installation guide) and yes it is simply plug and play instead of the CD unit.

It comes with a plug (same as the CD player) and you simply remove the CD plug and plug in the Ice link. There was also a 'ground' wire which has a spade connector on it which goes onto the spade 'male' part (which is attached to the RNS-D unit already - but not used). And hey presto works a treat but with limited display (as described earlier). Maybe it was this Ground lead that you were missing Fen??

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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Fen » Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:11 pm

I wondered exactly the same thing about the ground lead, but there wasn't one in the version I had as I recall. Maybe that's what makes it a v2.x.

In the BM it was fitted in the boot with the cradle on the dash so the run of cable back to the cradle may have picked up interference also.
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by philroach » Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:33 am

so , does it connect to your ipod somehow , or is it a hard driver or card reader ?
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Lig » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:29 pm

Hi Phil,

Mine connects directly to the ipod via the socket in the bottom (the icelink plus has the same plug that is supplied with the USB cable with the ipod if that makes sense).

As i said, I had to make a hole in the glove box side so the connector fitted through.
You can get other 'dock' units but I wanted to hide mine in the glove box.

Have a look here http://www.dension.com/icelinkplus.php as this shows the set up and the different doc units. Mine is just the dock cable.

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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by philroach » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:35 pm

hi lig
assuming you have the navi plus in your beast , what info/level of control do you get using just the dock cable , and is it relatively simple to get the stereo out ?
sounds like a good economical option ?
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RE: Re: RE: i pod connectivity

Post by Fen » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:06 am

I think you're confused Phil. Lig has an Dension ICELink which uses the dock connector on the iPod for connection. What it does was covered further up the thread.
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Post by Lig » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:15 am

Hmmm, I am confused now??!!

What I have is the Dension Icelink Plus v2.x. This consists of the electrickery bit (long tube box with dension sticker on) - which acts as the interface and is about the size of...well about 10cm long x 2cm wide x 2cm deep. One end of this has hard wired cables which plug directly into the socket that the CD plug goes in and there is a second single wire that plugs to ground. The other end has a small round din socket. Now I have a wire which at one end has the iPod plug which plugs directly into my Nano and the other end has the small round din plug which plugs into the Denison bit so i had to make a small hole (around 1.5cm diameter) in the side of the glove box to feed the cable through.

Getting the RNS-D unit out is easy just 4 'keys' and it slides nicely out you just then have to unplug the CD, plug in the Dension and the ground lead and then feed the wire from the glove box (I had to drop the glove box - about 5 screws) into the centre console so it plugs into the Dension unit.

Fairly simple I would say - the difficult bit is supporting the RNS-D head unit while you connect everything and put loads of wrags everywhere to protect your gear stick and trim!!

Now for the functionality - It is very limited and took a while to get used to!! You basically have your 6 CDs listed on the display as usual but the first 5 are your first 5 playlists and the 6th CD is to access the Denison\Ipod display on your iPod but because this is in the glovebox is useless!!

What I have done is set up 5 playlists Rock, Dance, Indie, Male and female vocal and then I put on a few CDs in each playlist. You could put loads on but then you have to skip to the next album which can be annoying as there is no indication of album names just numbers, for example if you have 10 albums in Rock each with 10 tracks on there will be 100 tracks on CD1??!!

You can also have shuffle on the ipod but it is difficult to stop this while you are moving as you have to go to CD6 (which accesses the Denison menu on the ipod and turn it off).

I hope this helps????

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shows the Ground lead (just above the red plug) black wire with red connector on. But since this photo was taken I have moved it to fit on the spade just above the red plug.
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Post by Lig » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:26 am

last pic shows the ipod connection and the hole in the glove box!!

Hope this makes things clearer??????

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Post by philroach » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:42 pm

Hi Lig
What more can i ask for , ( give me time , i'll think of something ! ) , certainly looks clean enough , shame about the lack of functionality , but then , the cd multi player doesnt give any names or much does it , just album number and track number
W hat sort of money did you part with for the electrickery etc , and where did you get the keys to pull out the stereo ?audi ?
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Post by Lig » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:27 am

Hi Phil,

It all came with the car - But at first I didnt have an iPod so took it all out to connect the CD player and then put it all back in!!!

The units are around £100 Do a search on ebay for Dension (also do a search for 'Genuine Audi ipod' ) , as for the keys also do a search 'Audi removal keys rns-e' brings up a set but just some of the 'Audi removal keys' list may fit - have a dig - the joys of ebay....!!

It would be worth speaking to an ICE supplier to see if they do them (to make sure you get the correct plugs) and ask them about the ground lead??!!

Look forward to hearing from you again..... :D

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