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Post by MarkB » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:45 pm

ZeroK66 wrote:I am having a similar setup to Mihneas...

Hotside Ported, clearanced K04's
Lowered CR - 8.2:1
FMIC + custom large steel intake piping
Coated Tubular Manifolds
Injectors & Pump
A little MRC Magic

I hope to get 470+ - I am not at this stage upgrading the inlet system (Y-Pipe & MAF) & the exhaust. These for now will be my limiting factor... so I may not get over the 450 mark for now. once these are done my engine shouldnt be any different to Mihneas. Not sure I would be happy with 500+ on a daily driver.

Watch this space.

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You got a time scale?

How do the modded K04's compare in price to Hybrids? I thought you were going to do the hybrid route...
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Post by trevs4 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:05 pm

I hear alot on hear about MRC on this forum i take it there the boys to take it too to have it remapped? the only other option i have seen are AMD but i havent heared anyone on hear mention them much is there a reason for that ?

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Post by S4TAN » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:13 pm

MRC certainly are the boys for a re-map, especially if you want a custom one - i don't know anything about AmD so can't comment....
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Post by MarkB » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:13 pm

I have an AMD map and it doesn't seem to perform as well as MRC. IMO. Maybe my car has an 'issue' I don't know...
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Post by S4TAN » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:17 pm

Big Issue sir...?
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Post by MarkB » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:19 pm

I'm running it on 'Big Issue' vendor budget :? So will be getting more out of this map before stumping up any money for a new one ;)
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Post by S4TAN » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:23 pm

Know what you mean about the budget thing..... :roll:

But the correct answer to my question was: "No thanks, this shoe fits fine........" :drink:
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Post by Dr-Al » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:25 pm

trevs4 wrote:I hear alot on hear about MRC on this forum i take it there the boys to take it too to have it remapped? the only other option i have seen are AMD but i havent heared anyone on hear mention them much is there a reason for that ?
Other options are APR, Revo, AMD to name but a few. A few on the forum have these maps and they all seem to push about 310BHP give or take, making them all pretty much the same on paper. The plus side is that these companies generally have dealers dotted around the country whereas MRC are located in Banbury. Not much good if you live in northern Scotland

However, these other companies charge £600+ for a generic map. The MRC guys do a custom map for £500, tweaking it to both the car and driver preference. The MRC map is, by all accounts, at least as good as the above (many would say better).

IMHO that makes it a no-brainer. When I eventually get mine done it will be with MRC (let's hope Mihnea's guardian angel sticks around for a while!).

Unfortunately I live ~2 hours away, so it's not like popping down to Kwik-Fit for a tyre change :cry:
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Post by rolskii » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:32 pm

S4TAN wrote:MRC certainly are the boys for a re-map, especially if you want a custom one - i don't know anything about AmD so can't comment....


:biggrin3: AMD :biggrin3:
:assflash: :<beep>_you: :assflash:


sue me ..... :lol:

Of course I use MRC ........ :roll:
dont know what I am to expect in power/bhp - but more than before without diesel sounds from the bonnet...... :lol:

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Post by saf » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:59 pm

I dont mean to upset anyone with an AMD map. But the amount cars I hear go to AMD and come out dead or with plenty of problems leads me to believe that I for one would not take my car there if it was the last placeon earth.

I did consider them when I didnt know better. Since Ive heard of people complaints that have used them, Ive stayed away. I guess there maps are okay, but from what several people have said, you might as well take your car to Sainsburys or tescoes to get fixed. Its mor elikely to drive out of the car park in one piece, as they wont touch the car.

I dont doubt some people have used them for things and come out okay. but its the big jobs and lack of service or friendliness after things go wrong that in my opinion tells me to stay away.

MRC however give a great friendly service and a great price and an even better product.

I personally say that custom mapping is the way to go. MRC supply a generic map for £400. To be honest, Id say its a waste of time, and I guess MRC supply it because all the other brands supply it. Its much better to get a custom map from them for your car. Tuned for the way your car performs, and all the bits youve uprated on your car and tweaked to the way you drive.
If you were to pay MTM for that kind of priviledge then you would be paying nearly £2000 plus, just to have a custom map as the guy would have to fly from germany to come and do it.

So in a way, even driving down from scotland isnt that bad. If I lived in scotland, I would certainly drive down to MRC to get a custom remap. Not only is it the best thing all round and cannot be faulted, ubut it would make a nice long satisfying drive. We have these beasts of cars. We buy them to mod them and drive them and enjoy them. Thats the whole point. So the drive there would be nice. and the drive back after the transformation would be a hell of a lot better. And even after the fuel costs. Youve still saved money.

I was going to get an MTM remap before. Ive driven MTM remapped cars. I think a stage 1 runs at 1.2 bar boost. A nice drive. But youll be paying £850 + vat. Nearly £1000. Just for a chip to be soldered into your car. It will not take into consideration any mods done, your driving style, or how your car specificly runs. It will simply tune your car the same as the car it was custom mapped for. Thats not the same as your car, as all cars have differences.

With a custom remap, You will reap the benefits of the car being tuned to the way you drive. You want it torquey, it can be done, you want more mid range it can be done. Its completely tailor made for your car. No oe elses. And at half the price of an MTM remap, SKN remap etc, it would be silly not to go for it.

Why go into a shop and buy a suit thats labelled one size fits all. When you can have one tailored made for you that fits just perfect.



Enjoy the 2 hour drive. Thats why we have these care, to enjoy them. It might not be like poping to kwik fit for a tyre change. But its more like going shopping for your wifes anniversary present. You better get it right first time, or things most certainly wont be sweet. Kepp thing in working order. Get the custom map done. you know it makes sense.


Just my 2p

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Post by Russ,greys4 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:17 pm

big txt! well done! but i aint drivin from manchester 2 have it chipped! itd cost me over 100 in fuel alone! scotland, probably double! find sumwhere local! no offence. if i lived nr MRC i d go defo, but i dont! bet its at least 2-3 hour drive, how much doe can u earn at work in that time? :roll:
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Post by saf » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:48 pm

£500 that MRC charge and £100 for fuel isnt so bad when you consider that AMD charge £750 + vat which is £881.25 for a generic map.

Thats £280 extra give or take a few quid.

So youll end up saving going to MRC and in my opinion getting a better MAP.

And youll also enjoy putting your foot down coming back home.

And If its not a reputable tuning compnay and they dont have much experience with twin turbo cars, they can easily push the cars to an unsafe boost level.

Apart from the usual reputable tuners, QST (mtm chips), AMD (for their chips only), SKN, REVO (not sure about safe boost levels with these guys though), , I wouldnt go to other guys that say they can tune a 2.7T engine. Our engines are very complicated and timing has to be spot on as well as boost levels mapped to a reliable degree. Otherwise its going to be bye bye turbos.

And all the above companies charge over £800 for their generic remaps.

A 100 in fuel alone isnt that bad when saving 300 on a map. And the quality of that map will be great.

If on the other hand you know of someone that has experience with the 2.7T lump and has done lots of mapping on these cars and they are local with a similar price or be it a little more pricey, then , I guess you have a point Russ. By the way mate, that RS4 gear knob I got from you has definitely made my car faster.

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Post by Russ,greys4 » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:18 am

it will do! it came of my car! its gotta be good! :lol: ive got an APR awesome re=map, its good. works well, but then i havent driven a MRC one! so i cant say 100%. but then u cant either. has any1 had both done? which is better? i paid just over 500, and cost me a fiver in fuel 2 get there! i agree MRC has a great rep, but its 2 far 4 me! :bigwave:
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Post by s4woody » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:46 am

well mines been mapped by DNA tuning..i put my ecu in the post and 2 days later i got it back ,fitted it and pow car came alive..went to QST for a milltek and a dyno run and the map done exactly what it said on the tin..i wont say how much but it was alot less than 500..
now if and when i fit my RS4 inlet parts john at DNA will give my ecu a tweek to compliment the RS4 parts F.O.C..
mrc are only 90ish miles from me in london and no doubt i,ll be dwn there for summit oneday but for now im happy with DNA..
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Post by S4TAN » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:54 am

DNA is good - it contains the code you need to become a living organism - DNA gets my vote every time... :assflash:
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