Coding for airbags on comfort seats

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:27 pm

If you activate it and you haven't got one, then presumably it will throw an error code. Are all the physical connectors on the comfort seats the same as the buckets?
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:32 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:27 pm
If you activate it and you haven't got one, then presumably it will throw an error code. Are all the physical connectors on the comfort seats the same as the buckets?
Still have the buckets in and haven't got the comforts just yet.
Previous posts on here say they are identical connectors
Surely as I presently have buckets that should't be enabled?
There are no error codes when scanned.

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:43 pm

Have a look at your buckets. You should be able to identify the airbag locations.
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:49 pm

There's this panel but it's not marked airbag and I thought this was the whole point of the excercise that buckets didn't have built in airbags
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:54 pm

Have you got a terminal resistor in the airbag connector harness? Looks like models with buckets have a resistor instead of an airbag which could explain why your coding / adaptation is the same:

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:56 pm

You have pm!

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:19 pm

The 3-pin connector for the comfort seat side airbag is orange it seems.
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:21 pm

Hi Shop ,
Changed code as discussed and got
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Changed back and cleared and no codes!

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:43 pm

Cool. Promising. That suggests that the coding from the other RS4 is what you will need.

I also just found this:
official VAG yellow airbag resistors to connect in the floor panel under the driver and passenger seat.
Which suggests you might have to go digging for the connector for the comfort seats and remove the resistor.
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:44 pm

I wonder whether you will have to mess with the seat occupancy stuff. One problem at a time...
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:18 pm

So I've changed the seats over but Noe I have both an ESP light and an airbag light on. The on board display says passenger airbag deactivated on start up as well.
Changing the coding as previously mentioned does not seem to make any difference. These faults are now shown
Battery was disconnected prior to removing seats .
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Found this relating to fault code shown
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:47 pm

Looks like it's expecting to see an occupancy sensor. Did the other car have one?
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by pete62 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:17 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:47 pm
Looks like it's expecting to see an occupancy sensor. Did the other car have one?
Don't know
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Do I want to do this?

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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:20 pm

Are there any connectors on the seat belt anchor? Other than pretensioner?
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Re: Coding for airbags on comfort seats

Post by Shoppinit » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:21 pm

Did you find the terminal resistor?
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///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
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