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Post by bobjebb » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:24 pm

Can a car battery be used to 'electrify' a fence or gate? Not to hot on current/voltage, if you touched both terminals would you get a shock?

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RE: strange question

Post by toasty » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:24 pm

Nope,

You'd need to step it up quite a bit. You wouldn't feel 12v at all.
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RE: strange question

Post by toasty » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:25 pm

Needless to say it can easily be done, but there are all the usual legal implications.
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Re: strange question

Post by peterb » Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:12 pm

bobjebb wrote:Can a car battery be used to 'electrify' a fence or gate?
Oh dear! What are you planning?
Not to hot on current/voltage, if you touched both terminals would you get a shock?
If you touch both terminals with your tongue, then yes, you would get a shock. But you wouldn't normally feel anything touching with your hands. Electrified fences (the sort farmers use to contain the livestock) are powered by a normal 12V car battery, but the use a capacitive discharge system to provide short pulses of high voltages (in the same way that your car's 12V electrics provide a spark at the spark plugs).
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RE: Re: strange question

Post by bobjebb » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:49 pm

twied the tongue thwing, yepth you're righth...

Actually being a farmers son I always the remember the fences being run 12v, that's why I wondered if it was possible. Anyone know if it's feasable, or rather what's needed? Some little oiks (unless it's more sinister) have decided to vanalise my intercom/electric gate at the end of the drive, and generally hang around eating KFC or whatever they do at 1am. Have a feeling they will be back to use it at some sort of hang-out and as sitting up all night with my paintball gun isn't possible, I wanted to at least give the little f*ckers a shock.
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Post by shineydave » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:33 pm

get a webcam for 15 quid and place it outside, u also need a baseball bat, hosepipe, or "add weapon of choice", not sure if it's legal but it worked when said "oiks" wrecked my fence
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RE: Re: strange question

Post by bobjebb » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:31 pm

got a cheap IR camera, now I just need 1/2 mile of cable...
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RE: Re: strange question

Post by peterb » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:31 am

Well, I guess the cheapest way to improvise an electric fence type of device would be a car battery, and old car ignition coil, and some sort of motorised switch.
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RE: Re: strange question

Post by toasty » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:39 am

Bob,

I think the electric fence idea is a bad one, someone will probably end up suing you.

Why not get a wireless ethernet cctv camera, 1/2 mile isn't beyond the realms of possibility range wise especailly outside, you'd need power of course, but if you don't have mains then could use the car battery that you seem hellbent on using to electrocute someone with!! ;-)

Find nice ethernet wireless cctv cameras here.

http://www.digidave.co.uk/product_info. ... 01e71b9686

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RE: Re: strange question

Post by simple1 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:46 am

Or even, get a gert big Alsation and keep its meals lean............. seems to have put all but the most determined round here, and does not need to be re-charged :sleeping_2:

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RE: Re: strange question

Post by bobjebb » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:14 pm

thanks for that advice all. Perhaps an electrified alsation would be the way to go...
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Re: RE: Re: strange question

Post by peterb » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:11 am

toasty wrote:I think the electric fence idea is a bad one, someone will probably end up suing you.
I've never heard of farmers getting sued for their fences.

Mind you, my in-law's Beagle would have loved to claim some damages from HRH after he cocked a leg against an electrified fence in Windsor Great Park! I can't even begin to describe the yelp of pain. On susequent visits he was very careful to keep clear of the fence!
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RE: Re: RE: Re: strange question

Post by toasty » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:23 pm

Fair point Peter, you are probably right, however I'd personally rather not chance it. The pics from my CCTV are clear enough that I could tell who was doing what ever they were doing, and then it's up to me how I choose to electrocute them or not!! :evil:

Bob seriously consider the CCTV route. Pic attached from my system which is the wired server version of the link I provided. I think you'll agree for a reasonably priced system the quality is good, especially considering the low light level (8pm at night)

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RE: Re: RE: Re: strange question

Post by bobjebb » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:48 pm

Thanks Dan That looks more than adequate - the trouble is the distance for me, the 'scene of the crime' is a loong way from the house, and as we're currently renting I'm not going to fork out for lots of installation costs... But thats definately an option for when we move. Electrocuting a local probably would cause problems though. Perhaps I should just set up a basic man trap laced with rat poison and piano wire...
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