C8 RS6 - what do you think it will do to C7 prices?

[doodlebug]

If it helps, Lamborghini sells around 350 cars each year in the UK (in recent years at least). That is before the Urus, which is expected to double that number.

The point I was trying to make is that you can’t compare rarity of a “250k Lamborghini” to the latest RS6. The number of RS6 on the roads in the UK is about the same as the number of every model Lambo since the Muira.

This!

And the 911 has been around since the 60s, Ferrari longer, so not sure what that comparison was about.

Not even apples and pears.

[zappy-chops]

Anyway, as C7 prices continue their natural decline, the potential audience will of course increase with changes in affordability. The increase in potential buyers may well balance against the increase in available cars (as people jump into the C8), or it may not and prices will take an unnatural drop to balance supply and demand. And we don't yet know what the C8 will be like. They just might muck it up and this will shore up C7 demand. Practically every article that will be written on the C8 will compare it to the C7. If the journos wax lyrical about how much better the C8 is then it is bound to impact (accelerate) C7 depreciation.

I only bought my C7 in November and it's a late model car (67 plate), with tiny miles (6k) and a ridiculously high spec (i.e. expensive) so I think I am right in the firing line for an unnatural drop. I love the car, but am planning on buying another, very different, car soon and am starting to wonder if I should chop in the C7 at that time and then maybe get into a C8 at the end of the year if I like what they have done with the car. Or maybe I just keep the C7 and damn the torpedos. It's a normal (ish) car after all. It's not an investment.

[W8PMC]

As has been said above, the arrival of the C8 RS6 (although i doubt we'll see it this year given the S hasn't been announced yet) will see C7 values drop further as a good chunk of C7 RS6 drivers will want the C8 & with more C7's chopped in to satisfy the demand you'll see a market awash (retrospectively) with C7's & thus they'll drop in value further.

Doubt it'll be a cliff edge, but they'll keep dropping like 99% of cars do.

What i do find odd & this is reflective of BMW M currently & not Audi RS, is they're offering a larger financial contribution for the F90 M5 for current or previous F10 M5 owners to entice them to switch. Seems a strange move, but TBH i see sales of cars around the £80-100k mark dropping off a cliff given the current economic uncertainties, so the same i'd expect will happen to the C8 when it arrives. Saying that, Audi may well delay its launch to ride out the storm.

[DaveBee]

As I said in my original reply I suspect the RS6 C7 will continue to devalue at it's current rate.

As far as the statistics are concerned, I can't help but feel some people are trying too hard to poo poo them without actually taking notice of what they tell us.

Clearly, if you live in an enclave of 4 houses and all 4 own an RS6 C7 you're going to think they're as common as chips but the fact remains there are only 2800 in the UK. The point of comparing that to other marques was to suggest the obvious... Statistically therefore you stand as much chance of seeing a Lambourghini (of any model) on the road as you do another C7. Value of vehicle is totally irrelevant for this. The fact of introducing more 'common' marques was to illustrate you're twice as likely to see a Rolls Royce and three times as likely to see a Bentley etc.

Of course there's other factors to take into account such as an RS6 C7 is far more likely to be a daily driver than a Lambourghini and so in reality of course you're more likely to see a C7 but you cannot argue with the fact an RS6 C7 is relatively rare which someone was suggesting they're not.

If you still want to make out the illustration makes no sense then I can't help any further.

Oh, and as the market increases for them (due to the price becoming more affordable) they will be in higher demand which in turn will prop the price up. There can't be a market awash with them as there's only 2800 to go around

Best.

[Markp]

As I said in my original reply I suspect the RS6 C7 will continue to devalue at it's current rate.

As far as the statistics are concerned, I can't help but feel some people are trying too hard to poo poo them without actually taking notice of what they tell us.

Clearly, if you live in an enclave of 4 houses and all 4 own an RS6 C7 you're going to think they're as common as chips but the fact remains there are only 2800 in the UK. The point of comparing that to other marques was to suggest the obvious... Statistically therefore you stand as much chance of seeing a Lambourghini (of any model) on the road as you do another C7. Value of vehicle is totally irrelevant for this. The fact of introducing more 'common' marques was to illustrate you're twice as likely to see a Rolls Royce and three times as likely to see a Bentley etc.

Of course there's other factors to take into account such as an RS6 C7 is far more likely to be a daily driver than a Lambourghini and so in reality of course you're more likely to see a C7 but you cannot argue with the fact an RS6 C7 is relatively rare which someone was suggesting they're not.

If you still want to make out the illustration makes no sense then I can't help any further.

Oh, and as the market increases for them (due to the price becoming more affordable) they will be in higher demand which in turn will prop the price up. There can't be a market awash with them as there's only 2800 to go around

Best.

This isn't the forum for a pissing contest - that is more Pistonheads style - but you are the one that wrote "2800 is a very low figure for a model of car ownership, on par with a £250K Lambourghini". I was just pointing out that was incorrect. #factcheck
And if there was that much demand Audi wouldn't have given me £15k off mine
Let's leave it there. We will be on spelling and grammar soon...

[DaveBee]

This isn't the forum for a pissing contest - that is more Pistonheads style - but you are the one that wrote "2800 is a very low figure for a model of car ownership, on par with a £250K Lambourghini". I was just pointing out that was incorrect. #factcheck
And if there was that much demand Audi wouldn't have given me £15k off mine
Let's leave it there. We will be on spelling and grammar soon...

LOL

The only one who thinks this is a pissing contest is you, which is unfortunately normal for the one made to look a fool.

However, as you're having difficulty comprehending simple facts and numbers, I totally agree, let's leave it there.

I for one am proud to own such a brilliant car of which there are only 2799 others in the UK

[Eddie555]

Believe it or not. An RS6 is just a car. As far as I’m concerned it has 4 wheels and goes pretty fast. So what? It’s a car. Rare or not. It’s a car. Who actually gives a flying whether it’s 1 of 2800. I know I don’t. I can’t actually believe the above willy measuring exercise. I travel a lot of the east middle England and I see loads of them on a daily basis. So if they’re that rare how comes I see so many. On the other hand a Lamborghini or a Ferrari is a rare sight. For me an RS6 is nothing special, been there done that. NEXT.

Edit: I’ve had more fun in my 2003 Renault Clio than I ever did in my RS6.

[zappy-chops]

Loving the banter chaps, but let's not fall out. I can see both sides.

For what it's worth, I've had my car 3 months now and haven't seen a single other C7 RS6 on the road. Not 1. But then I do live in Scotland and we are all poor, or are in the pub rather than driving.

[skirs6]

These are great cars but like the majority of non collectible cars will depreciate. The sort of buyer who can afford these new will not be overly effected by the price as there is not much out there to beat the RS6.
Ive had all three now C5 , C6 and C7 the last sold a few months ago. I’ve down sized to an RS3 but, depending on the look of the C8 I could be tempted.
If Audi get the style and design right it will be a winner and unfortunately the C7 prices will drop.
I think Audi have found a designer who likes the more aggressive look

[skirs6]

Believe it or not. An RS6 is just a car. As far as I’m concerned it has 4 wheels and goes pretty fast. So what? It’s a car. Rare or not. It’s a car. Who actually gives a flying whether it’s 1 of 2800. I know I don’t. I can’t actually believe the above willy measuring exercise. I travel a lot of the east middle England and I see loads of them on a daily basis. So if they’re that rare how comes I see so many. On the other hand a Lamborghini or a Ferrari is a rare sight. For me an RS6 is nothing special, been there done that. NEXT.

Edit: I’ve had more fun in my 2003 Renault Clio than I ever did in my RS6.

The reason you don’t see many Lambos or Ferraris on the road is they are so impractical for every day use. Where as the RS6 is the daily family car. The typical Lambo driver is like my new neighbour. He starts the car Revs the tits off it then puts it back in his garage and drives his range rover to work. really starting to piss me off as the dogs go mad when he Revs it.

[Anth]

Moden cars depreciate, the C7 is no exception, I do agree less than others and all RS products, we will see a good hold of the right cars subject to milage and spec as always prior to the C8 .
C8 for its first year won't have a huge impact the C7 will continue on the decline but we know the price tag will be High for a top spec C8 they may be 2 options hybrid / none hybrid (Audi roumour) also lets face it the C7 cockpit although great is now tired now for 2019 looking at competition from the E63 etc.
I paid premium for mine to get that spec so I'll have taken a hit but I don't see it like that otherwise we would never buy anything, enjoy and forget the value if you ask me

[Markp]

Moden cars depreciate, the C7 is no exception, I do agree less than others and all RS products, we will see a good hold of the right cars subject to milage and spec as always prior to the C8 .
C8 for its first year won't have a huge impact the C7 will continue on the decline but we know the price tag will be High for a top spec C8 they may be 2 options hybrid / none hybrid (Audi roumour) also lets face it the C7 cockpit although great is now tired now for 2019 looking at competition from the E63 etc.
I paid premium for mine to get that spec so I'll have taken a hit but I don't see it like that otherwise we would never buy anything, enjoy and forget the value if you ask me

Good point re cockpits - I often think these age cars much quicker than outside appearance. I have a B9 RS4 at the moment and I was back in a 6 a couple of weekends ago and it felt surprisingly old. Miss the V8 though.

[gsc]

You RS6 owners are f**ked, 2800 rare?! should have bought an RS7, if rarity is what you are after, only just over 460.

As for C7 vs C6, the C6 was launched during global financial crisis and aftermath and Audi couldn’t sell them hence they are limited!

C8 will no doubt affect prices, new tech, C7 owners trading up etc, how much so is anyone’s guess until the true purchase price and discounting is seen but I don’t see it being here until 2020.

But the value question is about a pointless as fuel economy with one of these cars. I will say however they do appear to hold values better than equivalent BMW, Merc, Jag etc.


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[Anth]

You RS6 owners are f**ked, 2800 rare?! should have bought an RS7, if rarity is what you are after, only just over 460.

As for C7 vs C6, the C6 was launched during global financial crisis and aftermath and Audi couldn’t sell them hence they are limited!

C8 will no doubt affect prices, new tech, C7 owners trading up etc, how much so is anyone’s guess until the true purchase price and discounting is seen but I don’t see it being here until 2020.

But the value question is about a pointless as fuel economy with one of these cars. I will say however they do appear to hold values better than equivalent BMW, Merc, Jag etc.


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RS7 will hit the same financial decline as the 6 . You know they only sold 500 of them as who wanted less for more @ RRP there a bit like the X6 in that fact .. When's the C8 7 out same time as the 6 by the way ?

[Anth]

Moden cars depreciate, the C7 is no exception, I do agree less than others and all RS products, we will see a good hold of the right cars subject to milage and spec as always prior to the C8 .
C8 for its first year won't have a huge impact the C7 will continue on the decline but we know the price tag will be High for a top spec C8 they may be 2 options hybrid / none hybrid (Audi roumour) also lets face it the C7 cockpit although great is now tired now for 2019 looking at competition from the E63 etc.
I paid premium for mine to get that spec so I'll have taken a hit but I don't see it like that otherwise we would never buy anything, enjoy and forget the value if you ask me

Good point re cockpits - I often think these age cars much quicker than outside appearance. I have a B9 RS4 at the moment and I was back in a 6 a couple of weekends ago and it felt surprisingly old. Miss the V8 though.

100% mark, the C7 RS6 exterior looks beautiful! And will hold up for years in to the new product line . That lazy facelifted internal attempt was lame , new dials, usb and a lap timer screen with the mmi with the image of the old car . the C8 is going to be uba tech and looking at the A6 I'll be special . External wise, I don't think they will hit par !