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Re: New Car Run In

Post by qwick69 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:54 pm

As above, I used to race motorbikes. When I had new engines fitted, or a new bike, best advice given to me was to nail it from day 1. Never ever had any issues, the only time the engines broke, was when I crashed :-)
Did the same with my C7, I have done 30k miles and apart from some niggly electrical problems, and a turbo issue, the engine itself runs sweet.
So, just start playing from day 1 :-)
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by superlightr » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:31 pm

qwick69 wrote:As above, I used to race motorbikes. When I had new engines fitted, or a new bike, best advice given to me was to nail it from day 1. Never ever had any issues, the only time the engines broke, was when I crashed :-)
Did the same with my C7, I have done 30k miles and apart from some niggly electrical problems, and a turbo issue, the engine itself runs sweet.
So, just start playing from day 1 :-)

think I may get into trouble if I floor it from day one towing a caravan.....be a fast caravan....but if I broke it then I would be worried AUDI would see that I was towing in the first 1000 miles.

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by footsoldier » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:45 pm

Paulm wrote:Loads of articles on this. Years ago they did testing on a new CBR900 blade. Easy run in and nailed from the start. nailed from the start made more power and used less oil

my car was nailed from the word go.

I run my karts in, in much the same way. Easy 1st lap of the track then nail it. I see loads of others doing 10 to 15 laps gradually upping the speed. Too last damage is done. My engines are always very strong.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
agreed..and I'm picking mine up tomorrow.

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Markp » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:18 pm

Always polarises opinion this one twixt the floor it supporters and manufacturer's take it easy advice. The only thing to add is there is a bit more to an RS6 than its engine, and these bits needs bedding in too, and that is why I prefer the gentle approach.
But, at least with brakes, some advocate race style rapid bedding in here too - but in my experience that causes judder 2-3k in on road car set ups like ours.
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by KikapuRS » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:03 pm

I took it easy for 500 miles then went for it!!! No way I could do 1000 miles taking it easy. My car has done 25,000 miles and has been faultless except for a minor issue with the parking brake. Enjoy the car when it arrives :beerchug:
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Zeebuilder » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:58 am

If the RS6 engine is anything like the R8 which I expect it would be in terms of performance/tolerances then it's run in on a test bed in the factory hence the reason there no oil service needed after 1000 miles. The run in period really is about the brakes. On my second set of discs I had a proper blast within 50 mile of getting them fitted. Major brake fade and low and behold brake shudder 3 weeks later. Another set replaced by Audi!!!

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Paulm » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:34 am

Zeebuilder wrote:If the RS6 engine is anything like the R8 which I expect it would be in terms of performance/tolerances then it's run in on a test bed in the factory hence the reason there no oil service needed after 1000 miles. The run in period really is about the brakes. On my second set of discs I had a proper blast within 50 mile of getting them fitted. Major brake fade and low and behold brake shudder 3 weeks later. Another set replaced by Audi!!!
not happy with the brakes in mine. Drove my daughters corsa the other day and just about put the passengers through the windscreen

RS brakes are slow and spongy. They don't like the cold either. I guess they are hard pads for spirited driving. I remember years ago I put racing pads in my EVO and nearly came a cropper as the flaming thing would not stop when cold lol

Might look at braded hoses and different fluid
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by IanH755 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:16 pm

Plus it's a 2 ton car you're stopping :D

I also didn't think the OEM setup was adequate (C6) so swapped to AP Racing Discs (same size as stock), Ferodo DS2500 pads and ATE super Blue Fluid and the brakes are fantastic for a stage 2 car but I found that the pads need either a monthly 30min proper B-Road blast or, alternatively, a quick re-bedding every month to maintain the best performance.
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by MikeFish » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:47 pm

It's called progressive braking. :biggrin3:

Corsas and other crap cars are over assissted in my opinion and it gives the impression of good brakes. They are not good brakes they are just overly sensitive and go from being off to on, there's nothing inbetween (exaggeration).

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by MikeFish » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:48 pm

Zeebuilder wrote:If the RS6 engine is anything like the R8 which I expect it would be in terms of performance/tolerances then it's run in on a test bed in the factory hence the reason there no oil service needed after 1000 miles. The run in period really is about the brakes. On my second set of discs I had a proper blast within 50 mile of getting them fitted. Major brake fade and low and behold brake shudder 3 weeks later. Another set replaced by Audi!!!
But were they any better when you needed them in gently ie your 1st set? Have you followed the proper bedding in procedure?

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Paulm » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:53 pm

IanH755 wrote:Plus it's a 2 ton car you're stopping :D

I also didn't think the OEM setup was adequate (C6) so swapped to AP Racing Discs (same size as stock), Ferodo DS2500 pads and ATE super Blue Fluid and the brakes are fantastic for a stage 2 car but I found that the pads need either a monthly 30min proper B-Road blast or, alternatively, a quick re-bedding every month to maintain the best performance.
I found my C6 RS6 brakes pretty good even with around 700BHP

Will look into something a bit better. The list is mounting with this car lol
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Paulm » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:56 pm

MikeFish wrote:It's called progressive braking. :biggrin3:

Corsas and other crap cars are over assissted in my opinion and it gives the impression of good brakes. They are not good brakes they are just overly sensitive and go from being off to on, there's nothing inbetween (exaggeration).
Corsa is far from crap. I bought it new for her, the car and spec for the price is very very good. Loaded with toys and safe I really like it.
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S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
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Re: New Car Run In

Post by anth8910 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:12 pm

MikeFish wrote:It's called progressive braking. :biggrin3:

Corsas and other crap cars are over assissted in my opinion and it gives the impression of good brakes. They are not good brakes they are just overly sensitive and go from being off to on, there's nothing inbetween (exaggeration).
Not saying that the brakes are crap on a corsa (if it stops it worksImage) but when I get into a super mini in particular (corsa, mini, fiesta etc) they all seem to put you through the window when you touch the pedal. In my opinion I think that as I currently drive an A6 the brakes feel great but that is what I'm used to, but when I drive something else I find the brakes harsh. So for me, if I drove another car more frequently it would probably feel ok.

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by Zeebuilder » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:09 pm

MikeFish wrote:
Zeebuilder wrote:If the RS6 engine is anything like the R8 which I expect it would be in terms of performance/tolerances then it's run in on a test bed in the factory hence the reason there no oil service needed after 1000 miles. The run in period really is about the brakes. On my second set of discs I had a proper blast within 50 mile of getting them fitted. Major brake fade and low and behold brake shudder 3 weeks later. Another set replaced by Audi!!!
But were they any better when you needed them in gently ie your 1st set? Have you followed the proper bedding in procedure?
We had the car stolen from our house 3 weeks old. Recovered pretty much brand new with exception to the front brakes. Discs dicoloured and pads were white. Insurance replaced them. Insurance replaced them. After I got it back I didn't follow any bedding in and pretty much hammered it one Sunday afternoon. Few days later brake shudder. Replaced again under warranty. Now they just squeak! Lol very good at stopping the beast but seem to have a few problems on here.

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Re: New Car Run In

Post by superlightr » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:35 pm

KikapuRS wrote:I took it easy for 500 miles then went for it!!! No way I could do 1000 miles taking it easy. My car has done 25,000 miles and has been faultless except for a minor issue with the parking brake. Enjoy the car when it arrives :beerchug:

were you gentle on the brakes for 500 miles?

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