Brakes...

[RIV]

See quote above yours...

I can't help if you drive like a girl

[Graeme4130]

Good in depth test in EVO mag. Back to back with F TYPE steelies and ramics. The obvious played out, but the not so obvious was the steels stopped it in a shorter distance.

For road, steels are more than enough

And anyone who has cooked their steels on the road, I'd suggest better pads and fluid, and some driving lessons

That was actually a bit misleading, and initially, both steels and ceramics have the ability to lock the tyres, and the abs system remains consistent between the two, so that measure was more an indication of tyre quality than a display prayers creating a shorter stooping distance
The benefits of ceramics in the case of that test was that the fade is obviously reduced and the power remains

[RIV]

The benefits of ceramics in the case of that test was that the fade is obviously reduced and the power remains

And this is what makes the ceramics so much better, lack of fade!! Pads and fluid may help,but at the end of the day you pay your money you take your choice, I know what I would rather have

[HYFR]

my R8 Spyder weighed in at 1850KG and it did 8 laps round the ring on Steels with uprated fluid and I had no fade

Brake hard, brake late

[carsarecool]

See quote above yours...

I can't help if you drive like a girl

Nope. Just don't need equipment to make up for lack of ability

[RIV]

Nope. Just don't need equipment to make up for lack of ability

remember one thing I didn't spec my car, so you can imagine how good I am now

[Surrey Sam]

my R8 Spyder weighed in at 1850KG and it did 8 laps round the ring on Steels with uprated fluid and I had no fade

Brake hard, brake late

Ceramics = Braker harder, brake later.

[HYFR]

^ incorrect

Ceramics = Braker hard, brake late, for longer

but I just told you my lardy arse cabby did 8 laps of the most demanding race track in the world.

I'm not an idiot, I've had C6 ceramics and x2 B7 ceramic cars. I know what they can do. but for the road, they are not necessary - that is not belittling any of their benefits ... but they don't all of a sudden give someone 50% more braking power as a layman might assume

[HYFR]

the only Audi I have experienced that NEEDS ceramics is a Stage II C6 RS 6

[HYFR]

oh, and Spa !

[Surrey Sam]

Not saying you were an idiot HYFR. With 2 B7's in the garage, one with ceramics and one without I can then compare back to back on the same platform - does that not account for anything?

[HYFR]

even with Homer on board & 4 up, this beast with Ferodo DS2500 & ATE Super Blue didn't fade

[HYFR]

Not saying you were an idiot HYFR. With 2 B7's in the garage, one with ceramics and one without I can then compare back to back on the same platform - does that not account for anything?

i know you weren't


and of course with that garage you are best placed to comment

[LittleDevil]

It all depends how and where do you drive! If you are driving in German autobahn, you can really feel the difference between steel brakes and ceramic brakes... It is also big difference between "old and new design" ceramic brakes RS6 C6 vs C7...

Read tests in a few magazines about RS5 (old technology calipers) - steel brakes, they are all complaining about brakes... To heavy car for 365mm discs and old 8 piston calipers

[Surrey Sam]

i know you weren't


and of course with that garage you are best placed to comment

Cool

I do agree with the Ceramics not being necessary though as the standard RS brakes are fine for road use, I just think ceramics are better as an overall package.