Don't Get Upset! The RS4 B7 Is Coming To America! Face It!

[AUDI|RS4]

The United States has been wanting the RS4 B5 ever since it came out in the first place. Some people over in the U.K. are getting upset because of the fact that Audi wants to place a new RS4 here, in the United States. You guys got to have the RS4 B5 all to yourself. Now, we get to share the RS4 B7 with you. I do agree, however, the style of the car has changed significantly with not only looks, but face it, we should be able to get the car too.

[Scotty]

I don't think anyone wants to deny any one in the world the choice of an RS4. The comments have been questioning whether the car has been made specifically for an American market i.e. it's more American that perhaps us Europeans would like.

I think you've misinterpreted someones comment.

[DaveP]

Agree with Scotty...I don't think anyone is saying it shouldn't go to the states, the issue that a 4.2 V8 engine is more suited to countries with a low fuel price...

It'll be interesting to see what sort of fuel figures it returns and whether the FSI makes much difference...We'll see...

[AUDI|RS4]

I understand what you are saying, but the full make of the car changed causing many Europeans to get upset. You might be right though. I do see what you are saying with the fuel economy and we will see what returns and whether the FSI makes a difference. I am not sure.

[kujo]

While I don't think we need a whole thread to talk about this subject, Scotty, you know you have seen MORE than a few comments here regarding design changes or 'RS flaws' in this new car, BECAUSE it's aimed at America.

While this board is mostly made up of English and European car enthusiasts, there are a few of us Yanks, that are really looking forward to having an RS4 on 'this side of the pond'.

For folks to say all the flaws in this car are specifically because of it's heading to the N. Amercian market is obsurd.

<beep>, Audi sold more cars in the UK last year.

The US will probably see about 12-1400 RS4's.
The UK and the rest of the world will get the other 5-6K that are made.

How is it OUR (us's) fault for design changes that certain members here don't like.

You either like the car or you don't.

I really like this board.
It's quiet and knowledgable for the most part, but some folks attitudes towards the evolution of the car is rediculous.

It's Ugly.... it's aimed at the US.
No Turbo's... it's aimed at the US
Too heavy, too much luxury... it's aimed at the US
Not enough torque...... it's aimed at the US and it's less 'wanting' enthusiasts.

these were all coments made.

They are not walking away from Turbo's to screw folks in countries with high fuel costs.

Does someone really think guys at Audi, BMW, Merc or other companies sit around and think of things to bone the consumer ?

They designed a new car. Some don't like certain aspects of it.
If it wasn't going to be brought to North America, what/who would be blamed then for the dislikes ?????

Just curious....

Kurt

[PhilT]

They designed a new car. Some don't like certain aspects of it.
If it wasn't going to be brought to North America, what/who would be blamed then for the dislikes ?????

Blame ze Germans....

I've been holding back on any comments as I'd like to drive it first to see if Audi really did sort out the handling issues.

IMHO here are the pros and cons that spring to mind:

No turbos - Doesn't really concern me too much, I'm more interested in the torque and power through the rev range.
Saloon - There's something a little 'yuck fou' about destroying someone in an estate/station wagon. Remember Volvo always used estates for racing due to the stronger body.
Push button start - Oh please, you're having a laugh!! Although I do have remote engine start on my RS4.
Bucket seats - Great, but I hope that it is part of the whole performance package... i.e. Does it include brakes that work?

The real proof to me will be some idea of the lap time for the Ring. I'm not a BMW lover, but I can't shy away from the M3 CSL's ability and attractive price. The B7 RS4 will need to prove itself to the market to gain respect, and until then I'm afraid my choice of car is:

1. M3 CSL
2. B5 RS4
3. B7 RS4

[kujo]

Since we only have the choice of #3, I'll take #3 please.....

Another thought that I forgot to mention.....

If Audi is soooooo concerned with designing a car for the US, why are WE, in the USA getting our cars LAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(longest wait of any market)

Riddle me that Batman.....(not you Phil.. )

[johneroberts]

They are not walking away from Turbo's to screw folks in countries with high fuel costs.

No just conforming to new emmisons laws in the EEC, something you guys in the states have yet to understand

but some folks attitudes towards the evolution of the car is ridiculous

More like devolution if you ask me, perhaps im slighty biased

But its like most things once you have something great, and people get to know, the whole world wants it, but then i dont...
Cheers
jr

[Scotty]

While I don't think we need a whole thread to talk about this subject, Scotty, you know you have seen MORE than a few comments here regarding design changes or 'RS flaws' in this new car, BECAUSE it's aimed at America.

Kurt,
Just for clarity I've not made a single post "blaming" America for the latest RS or any part of it.

In the above paragraph you're actually agreeing with what I posted. i.e. many people do believe the RS4 is not as good as is could have been due to the influence of the US, whether it's legisliation or preferences etc.

My post was simply pointing out that I've seen no evidence of anyone not wanting the US to get the car.

I've not actually posted an opinion on the subject and was trying to clear up what appeared to be confusion in the first post.

[AUDI|RS4]

Also Scotty, it isn't only the U.S. receiving this car. I agree with you 100% that there is no evidence of anyone not wanting the U.S. to get the car. I think it will be great for the U.S. to get the RS4 B7 because it will help production flow better for Audi. If this RS4 hits as big as it is predicted to in the U.S., there will be no turning back for Audi. The demand for this car is predicted to be huge.

[kujo]

I never said that folks DIDN'T want us to get the car. I wasn't saying you said anything wrong either Scotty, I was just pointing out to you that there have been comments made, quite a bit on this forum. We've all read them.

But it's just stupid, some of the comments made.
If there is something folks see as not as good as they'd like it on this car, it's N. America's influence/fault.

"I don't think anyone wants to deny any one in the world the choice of an RS4. The comments have been questioning whether the car has been made specifically for an American market i.e. it's more American that perhaps us Europeans would like. "

If Audi was tayloring this car for the US, why are we getting it DEAD LAST ? Making us wait over a year to get it. Damn, maybe we'll all just buy a new 400hp M3 by then.... Why are we only getting 1250 units ?
If Audi is sooo banking on a US hit, hit while the iron's hot, not make folks wait a year.....

Of course demand will be huge. We're only getting 1250 of em and guys like us will have deposits sitting in Audi's bank account for over a year. That's total BS.

Kurt

[AUDI|RS4]

I agree with Kurt. We will definitly put our deposits down for this car. It is going to be hot, hot, hot for us Americans. It is also about time we got our own RS4, not having to import it from Europe. I am definitly putting money down for this B7, no doubt.

[simple1]

Maybe we can send all the saloons to USA as they dont seem to wanted in Europe

[bobjebb]

AUDI|RS4 - Will you be buying the new RS4?

[tanoga]

PREDICTION

The europeans will not buy the RS4 saloon in any great numbers. The production allocation will then get transfered to the USA giving deliverys ahead of time. More saloons then avants will go the USA.