RS7 APR Reflash....

[sakimano]

Holy <beep> Christ.
I was actually agreeing with you and yet you are so <beep> blinkered with what? keyboard rage? That you create this... legend of a post.
I wasn't disputing anything other than for me personally drag strip times have no context as I don't participate much in that area so it's hard to compare one reading with the other. that's it. nothing against the validity or anything and yet that somehow makes me the <beep> anti-Christ.

ps - I love the way you turn pointing a camera "just so" into a "complicated video editing scam"... I hate to think what exactly you would find complicated? putting one foot in front of the other without falling over? basic maths? ABC?
Get a <beep> life.

The quote below was directed to you. I'm still waiting for an answer. As for the video you don't film from the flipping stands. You have a camera right at track level with someone filming, and show the tires and full interior. If you're faking that yes it's a video editing scam. Hrs what I asked you about.

If I'm not mistaken, you have claimed numerous times to work with race cars. You share engineering knowledge with the forum as well on a regular basis. Now...go ahead and tell me that any race team will trust the computer or dyno without road testing the car. I can't wait to hear it. Last time I checked, every engineer I know loves theory but they also love to confirm that theory with a practical test.

I think if you're being honest you will realise that testing ACTUAL performance and acceleration is part of the process for any legit endeavour.

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I have NEVER claimed to have worked with race cars. I have track cars and have raced but I would never say that I am a race engineer.

Yes practical testing is important but I say see how many race teams do you see using 1/4 mile type affairs to calibrate a car? (apart from drag strip runners - zero). In a race car you spend about 0.0001% of the race accelerating from standstill and low speed (unless you've made a massive mistake and need to re join the track). Most teams will investigate an impact on the whole package - improving engine performance doesn't always mean you get a proportional boost in lap times if the chassis isn't able to cope or the power delivery gets shafted.

Like any measurement it has flaws and advantages both in how the test is run and performed so you'd never take one test over another as concrete proof.
For me if I was looking to measure acceleration then I would be looking at something more akin to the Arthur test - fixed gear, rolling start acceleration between two defined speeds. But that's just my opinion and I can see issues with it.

And again I repeat I only said the numbers that are spat out from a 1/4 mile drag strip don't have context for myself. That's it. I really don't see the big problem? I didn't say it makes the 1/4 mile time irrelevant. I can tell you that a 10 second car is faster than a 11 second car but I couldn't tell you by how much (other than "1 second over a 1/4 mile").

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Heres my point on video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3co9ea ... r_embedded

Can you tell me from this:
1) what state the interior was in (or out as the case may or not be)
2) what tyres where running.

[bam_bam]

Is it cheaper to set up a "complicated video editing scam" or purchase an AWD dyno... I can see zero incentives for a small-time tuner to set up a "complicated video editing scam", way cheaper to buy a dyno. Innit.

[RIV]

I challenged you to go and even beat my STOCK time when you were running your mouth a while ago about how great your dyno sheet was and how JHM is nobody and MRC can do no wrong. I suggested a nice way to test that claim. You cowered instead. Sadly you sold your car a couple of months later and bought that my little pony blue abomination.

Play ground talk from the master,bet you cant!! drive round a bend at high speed without crashing, best stick to the drag strip eh!! Creep!!

[bam_bam]

Careful, his dad can beat your dad.

[sakimano]

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Heres my point on video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3co9ea ... r_embedded

Can you tell me from this:
1) what state the interior was in (or out as the case may or not be)
2) what tyres where running.

Yes I can because it's my car.

First off, am I selling anything? I'm a customer. So who cares what I did. You don't need to trust me.

Second off, here's what the interior looked like.
http://youtu.be/A139HdfABlA

Third, the tires are visible when the car turns I believe on other clips and from other people who loaded video from the same day.

Finally, if I wanted to show people what was in the car to eliminate any questions, I would do so. Like this video when a friend filmed me with no cuts just in case someone questioned the time and the car being stock, full interior, street tires etc.

World Record Stock B7 RS4 quarter mile 12.75 @ 108: http://youtu.be/Y2zYzRiNDnk


Or this video when jhm went 11.1 in their B5 S4 and posted this no cut video on their Web page.

http://jhmtuning.com/videos/onecut.wmv



When JHM films their runs, they always make these no cut videos just in case someone asks a question like you did.

[sakimano]

I challenged you to go and even beat my STOCK time when you were running your mouth a while ago about how great your dyno sheet was and how JHM is nobody and MRC can do no wrong. I suggested a nice way to test that claim. You cowered instead. Sadly you sold your car a couple of months later and bought that my little pony blue abomination.

Play ground talk from the master,bet you cant!! drive round a bend at high speed without crashing, best stick to the drag strip eh!! Creep!!

You act like I haven't spent time at track days and don't drive my car spiritedly. You're ridiculous. The dragstrip is not my pastime. Unfortunately golf is. The dragstrip is a measuring stick for my car, that happens to be fun. That's the end of it. You have turned me into someone who spends every weekend at the strip. When I went 2 weeks ago it was my first time there in 2 years. Why? Because I modified my car. The dragstrip is my dyno. Simple enough (well...it is for anyone except a peabrained simpleton who jerks off on dyno sheets for kicks).

I guess this is your form of intellectual submission...you're tapping out. Thanks for coming out though!

[RIV]

It's like fishing! throw the rod out, then reel it in,you take it so seriously.
Calm down sucky man hole

[RIV]

Careful, his dad can beat your dad.

Yep!!!only because he's dead

[bam_bam]

Lovin' this thread, not even an RS7 owner in sight and Saki has fill the badman boots I'm usually stomping about in. Mr. Green is, as always, the most sensible of the lot.

Saki, it is now you against the forum. Stick to your guns, matez. I've been there and I can tell you that consistency is king.

[Golfather]

Don't worry Sakman, I still you

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You didn't think I knew it was your car?
It was to prove a point - a nice video, entertaining and yet shows no details.
I don't have an issue with that but I take it if what it is- entertainment (Ala top gear).

You expect people to single frame the tyres- personally, I have more if a life (he says crashed out at 1am on forums).

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And now bam's calling me sensible...
Now we just need a hitler reference and this thread is dead!

[sakimano]

You didn't think I knew it was your car?
It was to prove a point - a nice video, entertaining and yet shows no details.
I don't have an issue with that but I take it if what it is- entertainment (Ala top gear).

You expect people to single frame the tyres- personally, I have more if a life (he says crashed out at 1am on forums).

No I honestly thought you were somehow unaware it was my car, because nowhere did I say the onus is on the customers to do a damn thing.

What are you on about?

I'm talking about the tuning companies. Is that not straight forward? I said it pages ago. I said it again two posts ago. Maybe in French would work?

If a company is selling a product, selling it based in the dyno is to me, half assed . On every other platform the standard is acceleration testing and then dyno. On audis, especially in the UK, people rely on the dyno.

Look at all the people who got swindled (and continue to get swindled) by PES and their dyno selling. Pathetic company. $13,000 for a supercharger kit that an engineer from Eaton and another from magnusson admitted was only capable of 450 hp ... Yet there's pes with 520 hp dyno and guys are eating them up.

Did you know that my 12.51@110.5 is FASTER than the fastest PES Eaton m90 rs4 time we've seen at a certified strip? For the record, I only had JHM exhaust on my car. The pes guy? Full milltek (another story lol), and about 100 lbs of weight reduction vs my car. Conditions actually favoured him. Oh and his pes Eaton m90 supercharger lol.

The testing the pes customer did showed the world pes was full of shyte. The dyno? Lol. Pes is dead over here as a result.

Sadly you guys kept them alive by buying $1200 pes Eaton m90 garbage over here for $13,000. And the same goes for other parts that do nothing. Because dyno.