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And they need to do in gear acceleration timing as well to get a better overall picture.

tricky as c6 has iirc 6 speeds and the c7 8.

tbh there will be nothing in it really. I'd guess both are traction limited off the line so the C7 being lighter should be a little more nimble.
any loss from the slight lack of power with the v8 is likely offset by the greater number of ratios.
So it'll come down to aero to decide.

[HYFR]

It is quite remarkable that there is so little between the two given the time in between.

Yes I know fuel economy, emissions, weight, looks, handling and tech has moved on.

But, outright performance is pretty much the same.

[doodlebug]

Yes I know fuel economy, emissions, weight, looks, handling and tech has moved on.

I think this is what makes the C7 more impressive. You get all the nut nibbling hippy dippy tree hugging stuff - 100g/km C02 less than C6 and yet the performance is there or there abouts.

[Golfather]

And makes the 6 yr old C6 even more of a legend that its still able to keep up with all the tech of the current generation

But for me, I wanna see a duel between a Stage 1 C6 vs Stage 1 C7.. Now that would make things more interesting

[GLM]

think all the tech would into play once you do a timed lap between the two - c6 vs c7 in a top gear timed lap situation. prob still not loads in it, but with the slight weight advantage and torque vectoring etc... the c7 should pull out a bit of margin over the lap.

Was insteresting to see the Merc vs RS6 on Fith Gear the other day - ok, not quite the same - but the brake test was impressive.

[Pigfarmer]

I've driven the C7 and (as has been said) it is somewhat of a step up from the C6 in terms of refinement, you CANNOT add build to that. But, the C6 will be more desirable a car in 5 yrs time onwards I believe. I personally find the C6 more desirable for a number of reasons, not least it's unassuming -golf like-park anywhere and no-one will hate you looks.

The heritage towards the C6 is so much more important; with its numbers (this is unfounded nonsense, but I'm saying it) probably already lower than the number of C7s ordered/on the road its got the rarity box ticked.

Those of us lucky enough to have found a 'plus' have 1 of 500 in the world, rather than the usual 1000 for RS products.

The fact that it was the first properly Quattro designed and built made for the road is another.

Probably* the last V10 engined estate we will ever see (*I can't off hand think of another ever made for mass production so possibly 'only'), not to mention it's Lambo DNA link and block stamp.

New is always better to many; but for a true car enthusiast it's the oddities and the quirks, those little special nuances that pull a car into ones importance radar. For me it sits in the era that saw Audi turn into a strong and great car building brand, away from it's many previous balls-ups. A time when Audi (for me at least) had the best looking cars they have ever made. A time when a German manufacturer suddenly 'got' the western (read UK) market more than ever before. Sit in a Merc or BMW of the same year or newer and you'll understand what I mean.

In that vein I believe that it could easily have had a British marque stamp on the front and looked 'right' somehow.

Dare I say it the C6 is a future classic.

(puts on Nomex suit in preparation of flaming)

[doodlebug]

Waaaaaay less C7s landed than C6.

C6 was subsidised, it was available for not much more than RS4 money. C7 is barely discounted, it will be fewer in numbers than C6.

Engine is NOT from a Lambo.

[C6NVS]

not to mention it's Lambo DNA link and block stamp

Engine is NOT from a Lambo.

To be fair, don't necessarily think there was a suggestion that the engine 'IS' directly from a Lambo, but the statement is factually correct.

[RS6chris!]

[quote="doodlebug"]Waaaaaay less C7s landed than C6.




Did I read somewhere that there are only "about" 230 C6,s of both saloon and avant in uk?

Also the C7 is still getting built?...I think we will end up with more C7,s than C6?....the C6 launched just as credit crunch kicked in...Audi couldn't have got timing any worse!!...C7 is getting great reviews and people are spending again.


Suppose the C6 was launched in an era of excess, when more was better, and no one really cared about emissions etc. All of a sudden recession hit and it was a sin to have anything of excess(still is I suppose)...in this respect a estate car with a V10 TT will maybe be never seen produced again?....hence in years to come it may reach classic/cult status as the original RS2 has now.

The C7 great as it is( I do want one ) uses the "generic" audi V8 and smacks of downsizing and pandering to the green brigade....if that makes sense from a V8!!..lol


The first C7 has fell below 70k I see?....roll on when they 40ish.

[RS6chris!]

Also if the C6 had the handling characteristics of the C7(suppose to handle well)....Audi would have created the best RS model ever.

[Pigfarmer]

Yeah, no I didn't mean to imply the engine is a Lambo, but derived...

I think in terms of numbers C7s will certainly be higher.

I seem to remember reading somewhere at some stage that approx:2700 C6s were built worldwide(*Quick look on Wiki suggests it was total prod. run of 8,000. I have no argument against this). Whether or not that included the 'plus'' I'm not sure, even so a low production number. I imagine the number has dropped somewhat over the years!

As Chris said the C6 could not have been timed more unfortunately. With the recession people held back. A friend of mine used to work at Audi UK. He told me the reason for the 2G MMI system being incorporated so much longer after the 3G system came out on the C6 was due more to cancelled orders than any other reason. I'm yet to be convinced on that as that would be a huge number of deposits lost to have 2G running through 9 months (I think) after the 3G system was rolled out.

Again the excess lowered numbers as well...

In 2005/2006 EVERYONE who lived in my locality of Fulham (and tbf all of south west London) had a Range Rover. Then the govt started the anti-emissions campaigns and a mere couple of years later all thing guzzling were looked upon as the devils spawn. UK society had changed and I don't think Germany had realised it.

Add those points to the fact that the first realisation of how severe the recession was going to be saw lenders clawing every penny back meant it wasn't so easy to get a lease on a car.

There are so many interesting points that relate to the C6 that the C7 simply doesn't have.

The C6 is to the C7 as the PS3 is to the PS4. The original broke the mould and was a game changer, the latter simply a bit more High Def version of the first.

[Rick_RS4]

2 land yacht s in port.

seriously tho very nice motors,

[doodlebug]

350ish C6s landed. Less than 100 C7s last year. The pricing dictates that it won't sell volume, so I still cannot see C7 outselling C6.

Audi had forward ordered a lot of C6s, then the financial meltdown hit and there were cars sat at docks with no buyers. Support from Audi UK came along and they soon shifted, but at massive discount in many cases.

[Pigfarmer]

Ah. That would make more sense with what I was told.

Do you happen to know in what way the C6 was subsidised, i.e. to what degree they were discounted?

[doodlebug]

I speak for myself, the discount exceeded 25%, I'd have to rummage through paperwork to find the exact number.