To save a grand or 2 is a significant saving if the problem is something as simple as a failed o-ring or incorrect filter.
If mine went I'll stick with my original box and take it to somewhere I trust. I'll know the history of it and I'll see the fault with my own eyes before any further work is carried out.
The exchange rebuilt boxes, aren't they usually previously faulty units? Do ZF completely strip down inspect and measure every single component in the box to ensure within tolerances and record them? Do they replace all the bearings?
Also do they put the box on a test bed to ensure the box is working correctly, that pressures and flows are all correct and it is all recorded for the purchaser to see?
If this info cannot be obtained there is a possibility we are in no better position by going with the costlier option.
I'm on gearbox No2, coming up to 115K. Replaced by PO at 85K.
160,000 Mile RS6
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
ZF replace every single component in the box other than the case.
Sounds good to me. I'd rather that than Bob the Gearbox guy in Redditch changing things that look a bit worn to him.ZF wrote: Remanufacturing brings the product back to the original OE production standard, usually in agreement with the OE/OES and offers the following features:
ZF quality standard including the latest technical updates (software and components)
Final test to ZF test protocols and full factory warranty
Guaranteed supply of ZF genuine parts
Cosmetically the product is returned to ‘as new’ by using the latest wet blast and ultrasonic cleaning processes
Fixed price agreements Service exchange programmes to ensure immediate availability
Volume optimisation enables manufacturing production style processes are employed
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Maybe I'm being thick here but I'm not seeing where it states that all internal components are replaced with new? Just new components are guaranteed ZF items?
Either way I'm inclined to go with the better the devil you know mantra, take it somewhere local with a good reputation and everything is kept in house so to speak. Soon as one company takes out the box and another supplies, when you come across issues it can be a nightmare to sort as both companies take advantage of the grey area created.
Either way I'm inclined to go with the better the devil you know mantra, take it somewhere local with a good reputation and everything is kept in house so to speak. Soon as one company takes out the box and another supplies, when you come across issues it can be a nightmare to sort as both companies take advantage of the grey area created.
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Each to their own. I know what I'll be doing. 
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
You know Bob the gearbox guy in Redditch aswell then.
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
One thread, just one thread, in the C5 RS 6 forum that didn't mention gearbox rebuilds. I knew it were too good to be true, now it's ruined.
ZF6HP26 is the way to roll you paranoid tarts.
ZF6HP26 is the way to roll you paranoid tarts.
2009 Audi RS 6 Saloon V10 - 420mm Ceramics, Keyless, Soft Close, Adaptive Cruise, Glass Sunroof, Blinds, Twin Pane & UV, Freeview & DAB, High Beam Assist, MTM bits, Audi Exclusive Bits, MRC, Milltek, GYEF1 ASY2's, Bluetooth streaming music to AMI mod - 753PS, 1021 NM
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Paranoid, takes one to know one you schlaaaaag.
You should know this forum by now, drc or sloppy box.
You should know this forum by now, drc or sloppy box.
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I don't think QST are spurious gearbox builders and they did the first rebuild.Shoppinit wrote:This is the problem with spurious box rebuilds... To save a grand or 2, people will have them "rebuilt" instead of getting a new (exchange) box and who knows what is or isn't changed. If there's a duff spring in the ATF pressure regulator, or a hairline fracture in an ATF pipe going to a clutch, and it isn't spotted, then the box will just fail again once the pre-existing problems do their thing on the new components. The fact that people are putting them back together with the wrong ATF filter doesn't go far to reassuring me on the overall competence of these box rebuilders.
That's not to say that there aren't any good rebuilders out there.
PREVIOUS: Black Audi B6 S4 Avant. Custom exhaust (sounded amazing). Otherwise standard and near perfect.
PRESENT: Muggy '53 RS6 loon. MTM Stage2. KW3s. 100 cells. Milltek.
PRESENT: Muggy '53 RS6 loon. MTM Stage2. KW3s. 100 cells. Milltek.
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I'm fairly certain QST don't 'rebuild' gearboxes.
2009 Audi RS 6 Saloon V10 - 420mm Ceramics, Keyless, Soft Close, Adaptive Cruise, Glass Sunroof, Blinds, Twin Pane & UV, Freeview & DAB, High Beam Assist, MTM bits, Audi Exclusive Bits, MRC, Milltek, GYEF1 ASY2's, Bluetooth streaming music to AMI mod - 753PS, 1021 NM
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Well if even the people that QST use can't get it right, I'm *definitely* going for a remanufactured box!
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Yet here you are, still hanging out in here. The hardest thing about letting go of my car is that I walk past it every morning and every evening, I cannot see the gearbox from any angle, nor would I want to. If i owned a C6, I'd rather stare at its gearbox and dream what should've been. The C5 is such a 'right' looking car.Amar wrote:One thread, just one thread, in the C5 RS 6 forum that didn't mention gearbox rebuilds. I knew it were too good to be true, now it's ruined.
ZF6HP26 is the way to roll you paranoid tarts.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Most of the old C5 owners like to comment in here, they must be gutted they sold the best looking rs6. 
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
I do occasionally miss it, mainly the noise/looks. The C5 forum is home now, no matter what I buy, or how many box/DRC/Baku threads I have to endure. Get used to it.
2009 Audi RS 6 Saloon V10 - 420mm Ceramics, Keyless, Soft Close, Adaptive Cruise, Glass Sunroof, Blinds, Twin Pane & UV, Freeview & DAB, High Beam Assist, MTM bits, Audi Exclusive Bits, MRC, Milltek, GYEF1 ASY2's, Bluetooth streaming music to AMI mod - 753PS, 1021 NM
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
2016 Audi S3 Saloon S-Tronic, Sepang, B&O, Tech Pack w/connect, 19" 5 Arm Wing Alloys, Comfort Pack, LED Light Pack - Company Car
1995 Audi A8 4.2 V8 quattro Sport
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
So you will prefer the c5 forum over ANY other car forum?
previous- Pug 205 gti, 306 gti, 309 gti Goodwood.
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Audi S3, S4 V8 avant.
Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.
Now - Empty garage
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there!
Re: 160,000 Mile RS6
Just don't ask him to forego his cross-dressing forum.
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."