BMW M5(F10) & Audi RS5 on my drive-which to take tomorrow?

[P_G]

I know what you are saying dk but I would miss my V8 and the B8 for me still looks bland and having to add an RS5 grille and 's-line lookalike' rotor alloys just typifies that. I'd have to replace the V8 with another or something with more cylinders, call me old fashioned.......

As for interior my personal feeling having sat in a few now including S4 is that it is not that much better and in some places more plasticy and as for fuel economy, that's what I've got the SEAT for and when hustled I haven't seen many people getting much better mpg than the B7. If anything my ideal would be an s-Tronic retrofit to the B7 RS4; hmmm....

[HYFR]

RS 5's are dropping nicely .... there is a red one for £42.5k with Buckets + B&O on Audi Locator last night !

[HYFR]

4.0T D4 S8 ftw in 5 years !

[P_G]

Too big for my garage and our narrow Victorian streets! C6 RS6 is 2 inches too long but I can move the garage doors to the outside of the supporting walls to get around that issue....

[HYFR]

cant help but think the C6 is too much of a barge after the RS 4

im gonna get one, but very clearning understanding its a 'bahn stormer

[sonny]

I know what you are saying dk but I would miss my V8 and the B8 for me still looks bland and having to add an RS5 grille and 's-line lookalike' rotor alloys just typifies that. I'd have to replace the V8 with another or something with more cylinders, call me old fashioned.......
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Agree, B8 A4s are ten to the penny around here, and missing that V8 rumble. Would look a bit "Bradfordish" if you stuck a RS5 grill in..

[ecain63]

I love watching this site and others ref the Audi vs BMW argument.

Ive driven the new F10 M5 on a track session in germany, organised for me and a few other enthusiast in order to promote the new model. I also own a 2007 E61 M5. I also owned, for 3 years a C5 RS6 which spent much of its time on here and now belongs to an SRS member. Ive also had the pleasure of driving an R8 on a few track days, and also a C6 RS6 on a track day. Ive had the use of a B7 RS4 over a long weekend along with an E92 M3 as a conmparison car.

My view (educated by experience) on this Audi RS vs BMW //M brake argument is thus:

The brakes on my C5 were ok for regular road use, but were dog <beep> at anything beyond a couple of consecutive hard braking sessions. Nobody who has driven a C5 RS6 can deny that.
The R8 was pretty good given they were a standard set up. I could trust them 99% of the time to do as they were told.
The C6 RS6 has chocolate brakes like the C5 once you get them hot but i must admit at normal road stuff they are very very good.
The B7 RS4 is also ok, but they do fade much like the C5's set up.

The M3 is very good, if not a bit rumbly on the road. On a hard session they do seem to work better than the B7 RS4 but at they same time they do get a little faded when you are realy working them.
My E61 M5 is actually very good in comparison to the C5 RS6 and ive had very few occasions where ive had to pump the pedal to get friction. Sure they do fade at the upper temp ranges but it does weigh circa 2 tonnes.
The F10 has brakes that are even better than the E60/1. Much more crisp, precise and you dont feel you are losing any of your brake performance when giving it some serious stick.

Dont knock em til youve driven em.

[HYFR]

respect your views Eddie ... my thoughts on your views on the audi's

B7 RS 4 - just uprate the fluid and job done - brakes are stonking
R8 - just look at this link ...60-0 mph stopping distances.... its 7th in the list !!!

http://www.motortrend.com/features/mt_h ... ewall.html

not a BMW in sight !

The C6 is 2.2tonnes ! really needs ceramics to dissipate the extreme heat generated

The C5 is so old that when she was in school there was no history class


I have a lot of respect for BMW //M .... but even more realise what a ridiculous performance proposition they are in sub zero / heavy rain scenario as our 70% - 90% RWD R8's wiggle like hell when you lay down the power

[ecain63]

I agree mate, especially when mated to the aggressive SMG of the M5. No go in the snow for us. That's the only time when I miss my C5.