Site slow?

Post by **DaveP** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:25 pm

Cool...the reason it's a bit slower when hitting the 'back' button, is because it's acually reloading the page. This is actually better, as the forums will only show there's new posts when there really is.

Using the old software, you had to do a refresh on the main forum page to find if there were any new posts.

Will keep an eye on the speed, there's probably a few more things I can do to help speed it up.

Post by **scillyisles** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:37 pm

It's certainly noticeably slower this afternoon than it was this morning.
(Other sites are OK - I connect to the Internet at 2mb)

Post by **fade2grey** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:34 pm

Hola.. still pretty slow swapping between pages & posts etc.. (PHP?

)

ps.. it's not my machine

L8r
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Post by **boff** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:07 pm

Woah, I don't think it's latency related anyway - Eclipse currently look like a good bband provider for access to the site:

Tracing route to www.rs246.com [213.218.217.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.37]
4 13 ms 14 ms 12 ms linx1.cr1-telhe-lon-uk.as15444.net [195.66.224.109]
5 20 ms 20 ms 18 ms a1-0-0s100.cr2-u30-sal-uk.as15444.net [213.130.138.66]
6 19 ms 21 ms 21 ms f0-0s1.ac1-u30-sal-uk.as15444.net [213.130.128.3]
7 * * * Request timed out.

21ms, jeez!

Post by **DuncS3** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:58 pm

Its still slow for me, direct comparison with TS.NET - thats fine, we are still quite a bit slow imo

Dunc

Post by **PhilT** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:30 pm

Been busy working on the backend today. Can people who experience it being slow do the following:

1. Describe exactly which part is slow.
2. Tell us when it's fast

Post by **Taipan** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:04 pm

For me today (sunday 21 afternoon-evening), it's a bit slower indeed than usual (usual being also slower than V1, no rant here, just a feeling).

What I feel : all pages take longer to load, including in PM. Pages take approx 2-4 sec to load which does feel longer than other sites.
(other forums I use have shown no changes).

What I have : P4 2.4C, 1gig ram, 80g HDD, WinXP and 2meg ADSL in France.

I realize this is not the most technically useful input but it's a summary of my user experience.

All the best,

Eric

Post by **scillyisles** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:24 pm

Site is painfully slow at the moment (all other websites are OK)
The activity on Rs246.com seems to be very light and yet the response time is very slow - why?

P.S. and yet 2 minutes later site speeded up noticeably - very odd! is there some form of startup/initialisation going on here?

Post by **Bushy** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:35 pm

What you need to realise is that information is being cached on your machine, also when you go back a page the whole page is reloaded, unlike say tyresmoke where if you go back it just uses the last image of the page, so no change to posts you have read

Seems like a good feature to me so happy to put up witht he slight delay

Cheers

Bushy

Post by **PhilT** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:43 pm

scillyisles,

Can you post up some traceroutes please, and describe the connection and provider.

Thanks.

Post by **scillyisles** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:07 pm

Bushy wrote:What you need to realise is that information is being cached on your machine, also when you go back a page the whole page is reloaded, unlike say tyresmoke where if you go back it just uses the last image of the page, so no change to posts you have read

Seems like a good feature to me so happy to put up witht he slight delay

Cheers

Bushy

Thanks Bushy - nothing like teaching your grandma how to suck eggs.

I happen to be an IT professional rather than an someone who dabbles in IT as a sideline. My Internet Explorer cache settings are set to always reload the page rather than use cached pages so any difference in website speed is not related to the cache settings on my PC and my PC is fairly state of the art with 1GB main memory, 128MB graphics card, 60GB disc drive, Win XP, etc - it's a laptop too!. We are connected to the internet via 2MB ADSL line which is measured frequently for contention rate and throughput etc.
So I'm reasonably confident that slow response times exhibited by RS246.COM are problems at your end rather than mine.

P.S I don't use tyresmoke.
P.S typically if you use the "Back" key in Internet Explorer and you're caching pages then it does'nt reload the page from the website but just reloads it from disc which typically will be much faster than going back to the website. If you've setup your cache settings in IE this way then it would do it like this for every website.

Post by **scillyisles** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:24 pm

PhilT - here you go - looks to me like there's no real problem with communication speed - I think it's a problem with your server and/or software.
Tracing route to www.rs246.com [213.218.217.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms adsl-213-254-176-193.mistral-uk.net [213.254.176
.193]
3 24 ms 23 ms 21 ms mistral1-hg1.ilford.broadband.bt.net [217.32.63.
72]
4 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 217.32.63.1
5 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms 217.32.63.106
6 24 ms 23 ms 26 ms g7-5.th-bt-nte.lon-th1cas.mistral.net [217.154.1
31.161]
7 26 ms 26 ms 27 ms g11-0-0.lon-th1br.mistral.net [217.154.71.2]
8 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms gig6.lon-th2rt.mistral.net [213.254.191.16]
9 27 ms 27 ms 29 ms lon-not.mistral.net [217.154.77.198]
10 31 ms 32 ms 32 ms not-man.mistral.net [217.154.77.193]
11 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms f4-0-0.cr1-telc-man-uk.as15444.net [212.121.32.3
5]
12 32 ms 32 ms 35 ms s5-0.ac1-u30-sal-uk.as15444.net [213.130.130.33]

13 35 ms 32 ms 35 ms f0-0s1.ac1-u30-sal-uk.as15444.net [213.130.128.3
]
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20

Post by **peterb** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:37 pm

scillyisles wrote:... I think it's a problem with your server and/or software.

This is my impression also. No problems with any other site, traceroute/ping times indicate no communication delays. Sometimes it just takes a very long time to get responses from the rs246 server - even to the point of the browser timing out.

Post by **DaveP** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:14 pm

I've been using it all day without problems...I'll take a look at the logs when I get chance to see what http response times we're giving.

There must be something wierd going on, as various people are obvioulsy having problems... but I'm not convinced it's server related yet - I've yet to have a request time out - maybe a proxy problem inbetween or something ???

Post by **scillyisles** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:42 pm

DaveP wrote:I've been using it all day without problems...I'll take a look at the logs when I get chance to see what http response times we're giving.

There must be something wierd going on, as various people are obvioulsy having problems... but I'm not convinced it's server related yet - I've yet to have a request time out - maybe a proxy problem inbetween or something ???

In general a proxy server problem at our ISP would tend to exhibit problems on more than one website. I use a huge number of websites per day which would test out any proxy server and so far today the only one with poor response time is RS246.COM

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