Time to break open the piggy bank again...

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:24 am

Stirling Audi called… Technician said he couldn’t get it to fault on test drive. Suspect they didn’t drive it long enough as it only did it with me after 10-15 minutes once it had warmed up. However they said their diagnostics indicated a fault with the 2nd gear solenoid – which would marry up with my driving experience. So they’re off to flush out the gearbox fluid, refill and then retest.

They said if that doesn’t show any improvement they’d be looking at replacing the valve block (?) at a cost of £1,820.

Thoughts so far? ;-)

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by Shoppinit » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:03 pm

Thoughts are: TC is dead, they are wasting their time and money. Luckily it's their money and not yours.

Hopefully I'm wrong. But if you're not paying, I'd be pushing for a new box, complete.
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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:42 pm

the flush and refill has made no difference. They're now on to the warranty company to obtain authorisation for the valve block replace / repair.

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Post by bam_bam » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:08 pm

Shoppinit is right, anything less than a full 'box replacement is only going to last a few months, at best. There’s too many stories on here to back it up. Make a serious fuss about it, cry, stamp your feet, dribble, flail arms and legs about, do whatever you can to force the issue. It's a false economy to rip the box out again in a couple of months time, ne?
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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by chunky79 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:12 pm

Have you got a courtesy car from them? If not i would be saying i want a new box asap as you need the car back.
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Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:00 pm

chunky79 wrote:Have you rang Grizz to see if he can pick it up and do it at his place?
i did toy with the idea of driving it down but it was next week before logistically i could do that. Never considered a pick up unfortunately :-(

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:08 pm

Shoppinit wrote:Hopefully I'm wrong. But if you're not paying, I'd be pushing for a new box, complete.
So are you saying they could change the valve block, put the whole lot back together and I could still have the same problem? They seemed pretty certain it was one solenoid controlling 2nd gear (?? what do I know ??)

Excuse my ignorance but would they check the torque converter during that process?
Shoppinit wrote:Hopefully I'm wrong. But if you're not paying, I'd be pushing for a new box, complete.
Warranty company haven't yet come back, but the valve block is specifically covered in the policy document. I've had zero success in the past (two separate occasions) getting them to shell out for anything other than the parts recommended by Audi - even though on one occasion (DRC) it ended up costing them more when they had to replace again. I will ask though...

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:14 pm

OMG it's depressing owning an RS6 sometimes! I come on here and read about remaps; Millteks; detail and loads of other enhancements but my slush fund never gets big enough to afford these luxuries before I have to fritter it away on just keeping the car moving. :shock: :evil: :shock: :twisted:

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by MalcolmSu » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:33 pm

In my search for more info on TCs, valve blocks, etc I found this crew http://www.mackie-transmission.com/index.htm just along the road from me.

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by marv8 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:38 pm

Did they mention what the ATF was like when they flushed the box? If it was burnt and full of swarf it's Defo the TC, when they drop off the sump pan there are some magnets in there to catch debris.
Check out this link, variant of same box and RRphil is the man on the lardrover sites - this is not a TC failure but would be similar amounts of cack in there
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 ... agnets.jpg

As mentioned WD may not be willing to cough up for a new gearbox but you will need a full rebuild, if they just replace the TC (assuming it's the culprit) without stripping the box and replacing any damaged or worn parts it will last about 5 mins


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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by bilko1 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:12 pm

Surely if it was the torque converter Audi would have got the P0741-17125 code aswell as the one they got and would be rubbing there hands together at the thought of over 20 hours labour charge. :bigblink:
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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by posterboyj » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:17 pm

20hr x £136 = :)
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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by chunky79 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:44 am

bilko1 wrote:Surely if it was the torque converter Audi would have got the P0741-17125 code aswell as the one they got and would be rubbing there hands together at the thought of over 20 hours labour charge. :bigblink:
I thought i had read on here that if prnds all flash up then the torque converter code came up aswell?

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Re: Time to break open the piggy bank again...

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:54 am

Not necessarily. The PNRDS coming up is a warning that the box is in limp mode. It can go into limp for many different reasons. There are hundreds of fault codes that can cause this. It's just that most of the time the cardboard TC is to blame.
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