Dectane LED Rear Lights

[philroach]

guys, you really need to wwitness them in the flesh and on the move ... I was following Steve to the Kent meet today and they really look the nuts ...

Totally in-keeping with the car but bring it bang up to date .... Also looks especially good on black

what kent meet?!?!?

yeah , come on you SRS boys , put a post on 246 as well , for us heathens who only browse SRS every now and then , would get more interest for the next meet for sure
Phil

[RS6Steve]

guys, you really need to wwitness them in the flesh and on the move ... I was following Steve to the Kent meet today and they really look the nuts ...

Totally in-keeping with the car but bring it bang up to date .... Also looks especially good on black

what kent meet?!?!?

yeah , come on you SRS boys , put a post on 246 as well , for us heathens who only browse SRS every now and then , would get more interest for the next meet for sure
Phil

It was posted on here look in trackdays and meets!

[Ceveman73]

Has anyone fitted the black LED rear lights to an Avant?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LED-Rear-Lights-A ... 684wt_1131

Mart.

[bam_bam]

I will say this though. Steve....when you went out the car park today, we all noticed that you can only really get the true brightness if you're directly behind them..when you braked, from our angle it looked like only your drivers side lit up!?

Interesting, I'll check the viewing angle out....

Steve, was your rear lens TÃœV approved? This is kind of a common problem with aftermarket LED lens kits, bit dangerous IMO. It sounds like the rear lens design is decreasing the LED intensity when viewing from obtuse angles. I think this was advantageous with forward facing DRLs, for which some of these rear LED lens kits have been copied from the early forward facing DRL designs.

You can often see DRLs appear to not work from certain angles in video, very common.
Example:

Fast forward to 3:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kLoHgl_FS8

[white23]

what have i done wrong!?!?! fitted these yesterday all wired up fine, went for a drive an as soon as i braked the traction control light and abs light come on the dashboard. it i turn the engine off it clears until i brake again then the lights on the dash come back on. any thoughts?

its not your ABS ECU I can tell you that much. I had a similar problem which ended up being a brake light switch (£9) as opposed to an ABS ECU which is £1,400... its the difference in the time between your pedal and light communication causing an intemittant fault...

[Welky]

"Steve, was your rear lens TÃœV approved? This is kind of a common problem with aftermarket LED lens kits, bit dangerous IMO. It sounds like the rear lens design is decreasing the LED intensity when viewing from obtuse angles."

Surely the only angle that is important is directly from behind so cars following are aware that a) you are braking, and b) that you can be seen at night. Looks like these lights do both, do I can't see the problem, but then I would say that having just bought some!

[the6]

I had a shot taken by my 9 yro a minute ago, jusyt to show you how bright these buggers are!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcSZVbXeeE

[iR8V10]

I had a shot taken by my 9 yro a minute ago, jusyt to show you how bright these buggers are!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcSZVbXeeE

Barrel of laughs in your house eh cam!?

"Who wants to come out and play, how bright are Daddy's lights?"

[the6]

HAHAH She didnt want to, no shoes on and freezing, I got the 12 YRO to take this 20 mins earlier as I picked her up from mates.
Wife refused, miseable old snatch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBu0z0I7N2I

[iR8V10]

HAHAH She didnt want to, no shoes on and freezing, I got the 12 YRO to take this 20 mins earlier as I picked her up from mates.
Wife refused, miseable old snatch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBu0z0I7N2I

You letting her drive it to work everyday too?

[the6]

only did 12 miles today, very good for me, see ing as had 400 last week! DOOOOHHH

[iR8V10]

only did 12 miles today, very good for me, see ing as had 400 last week! DOOOOHHH

She'll be breaking 20k before you know it!

[bam_bam]

"Steve, was your rear lens TÃœV approved? This is kind of a common problem with aftermarket LED lens kits, bit dangerous IMO. It sounds like the rear lens design is decreasing the LED intensity when viewing from obtuse angles."

Surely the only angle that is important is directly from behind so cars following are aware that a) you are braking, and b) that you can be seen at night. Looks like these lights do both, do I can't see the problem, but then I would say that having just bought some!

Errrrm, no!!!

Crossing a roundabout I'd like to know if you're braking BEFORE I got directly behind you!!!
OR
Following you around a hairpin (or even a 90 degree), I'd like to know if you're on the brakes!!!
OR
Following you down a hill into a dip, if you broke hard at the dip the angle would be obtuse to the following driver.
OR
If cornering and you're near-side rear cluster is obscured by road-side street furniture etc and your off-side rear cluster is therefore at an obtuse angle

In most cases the uni-directional rear LED lens will splash the surrounding environment with residual light (walls, road, other cars etc). But I wouldn't trust that... "on a long enough timeline, everyone's chances are reduced to zero".
With a standard filament style lens the light is omni-directional and dispersed from the source, so this issue is vastly reduced.
Get my point?

[Welky]

Yep, get your point but devil's advocate, surely you would brake before you enter a corner, so no lights required and certainly long before the apex when the angle is most obtuse. On a dip, that would have to be a serious incline and climb to cause that much of an angle. Can't argue with you on the roundabout example though, except roundabout mechanics would indicate I would be slowing before crossing your nose and so in most cases observation would alert you to the hazzard.

BUT...I am the first to admit I have not seen the LED lights from an angle and am only going on the photos posted here.

Can one of you fellas post a pic or two from different angles, day and night, brakes on and off so we can get an idea of whether Bam is very wise and I'm an argumentative c..k who'se just pissed €220 up the wall?

[RS6Steve]

So following this discussion I did a left to right walk behind the car and I could see them fine....

DK followed me and he never said he could not see them, plus I could certainly see his....