is this normal?

Post by **carlosthejackal** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:47 am

my wife was using our a3 quattro. she got into the car,put the key in to the ignition,but did not turn it,she then decided to get out of the car to remove her coat,i don't know why she closed the door,but she did,unfortunately,the central locking activated and locked her out,with keys in the ignition,handbag and purse on the passengers seat etc
anyway,she had to leave the car like that,in a supermarket car park while she came home (20 mile round trip)to get the spare keys...it was still there when she got back (1 hour later)

i would like to know,

does this normally happen?

would it have happend,if she had turned the ignition on,or started the engine?

if she had sat in the car while with the keys in/out of the ignition,would the central locking activate?

at the moment,i always leave the door open while defrosting it,with the engine running,incase i get locked out.

advice please! [img]images/graemlins/boohoo.gif[/img]

Post by **Hopsta** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:55 am

AFAIK the doors will only re-lock themselves if the any of the doors haven't been opened. Only way I can think is that she may have knocked the 'lock' button with teh door open which then would have engaged the locks when the door shuts.

I'll give it ago later on today and test out what happens

Graham

Post by **Carps** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:09 am

I had a recent experience of this involving a dealership locking mine and a number of other sets of keys in my car.

Once unlocked, the car will relock itself if the drivers door is not opened inside of about 30 seconds. What happened in my case was that the car was in for a new courtesy light switch - for the drivers door !
First thing in the morning the mechanic unlocked my car and put a number of sets of keys on the seat whilst he de-iced the car. Of course he shut the door while doing it. 30 seconds or so later the car locked itself, with a number of sets of keys inside it [img]images/graemlins/roundeyes.gif[/img] The reason for this was that the car did not know the door had opened, because the courtesy light switch on that door had failed.
This did nothing for the service department (thanks to all the car keys being locked safely in my car), and after a couple of calls to find that I would not be able to get them a set of keys for a couple of hours, they had to contact Audi Germany, get the codes for my car, and have a new key made (which I got for free [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])
The mechanic got a bit of a bollocking, as sadly the dealership failed to work out how it had happened. Hopefully once I gave them this explanation he also got an apology...

So, the thing to do is check that your courtesy light switch works. You need to remember that the lights will also come on for a little while when the alarm is disarmed, or the key removed from the ignition, so you need to wait for these periods to pass until you open the door to check the courtesy light switch. On mine it also failed to show an open door on the DIS, so that is another clue.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:31 pm

This happened to me before I got my drivers door switch replaced. To tell if it's faulty, simply leave the lights on, remove the keys and open the drivers door - you should hear the lights on buzzer.

Incidently, both times it happened, audi UK and my local garage unlocked the car in seconds [img]images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Post by **Paul-RS** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:33 pm

same as Nige.

my passenger door from factory, didnt turn on the interior lights or the pavement lights in the door. likewise the car didnt "know" door had been opened and would auto relock itsself.

needed a new door lock/switch mechansim under warranty

Post by **dog** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:15 am

I think it is a setting. You can set the central locking to lock automatically after a short time. I thought that the car senses that it has a key in the ignition and does not lock . I will try it out today and let you know

Post by **Paul-RS** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:39 am

it is.

my car is set up so if i dont open up a door or boot within 1 min of unlocking it, it will auto re-arm and lock.

if you have a dodgy switch like i did, the alarm and car, doesnt know the door has been opened and shut, or indeed left open, so re-arms and locks...

Post by **carlosthejackal** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:56 am

thanks for the info!
to be honest,i don't think i will ever trust the locking system again.
i remember when i was on holiday in the south of france in sept,there were situations when,say,i was loadind/unloading the vehicle,or stopping to get fuel etc,and i would imagine,what would i do,if i got locked out,1000 miles from home,with no spare key!,i suppose a brick though the window is the only option!

Post by **TarmacTerrorist** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:56 pm

I had this happen to me in a TT, I've posted about it somewhere here before. I had the car lock the doors with the keys in and engine running. Had to wait 4 hrs for the missus to finish work and show up with the keys (luckily I was only local). Took it to Audi and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. I eventually traced the problem myself to a small connector block inside the drivers door panel (its the one where the wiring loom thats going into the door splits up to all the various bits - windows, mirrors etc). Opening and closing the drivers door in a certain way seemed to make a short circuit on the connector block activating the central locking system. It also locked me out of the petrol filler cap aswell a couple of times before I noticed what was going on (filler connected to the c/locking also).

Dont know about the S3 but the TT had a self locking system on it which after about 5/10 minutes of the car being left open with the keys out of the ignition it locks itself. It always used to lock the missus in the car and then set the alarm off whenever I got out to do something and took the keys with me (IIRC you cannot open the doors from the inside when the car has been locked and alarm set).

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Post by **dog** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:33 am

I have tryed: open the car with the remote, put the key in , close the door. No locking after 3 minutes. I got bored after that.

Post by **TarmacTerrorist** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:58 am

I have tryed: open the car with the remote, put the key in , close the door. No locking after 3 minutes. I got bored after that.

Should only lock itself with the key OUT of the ignition.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:10 am

Should only lock itself with the key OUT of the ignition

... and you don't open the drivers door !

Post by **dog** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:54 pm

But that is what carlosthejackal's wife did [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Post by **johneroberts** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:25 pm

Does it take the dog for a walk and make the tea [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
jr [img]images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img]

Post by **dog** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:36 am

The dog jumps in and out, the car takes thde dog for a walk but can't make tea just as yet....

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