Gearbox life survey

[CliveH]

So that guy actually went to the ZF factory itself to get the service?

Yes. Anyone fancy a trip to Dortmund?

[el_ringo]

Im planning a trip to the 'ring in the spring and it isn't too far away so might check that stuff out. I wonder what else they can do there in a reasonable time?

[Knutts]

Failed
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
6. skyegtb - New box at 25,000 miles was running MTM 535 then, not sure of failure (previous owner). Now 52,000 miles and been MTM 568'd at same time as box replaced. G/Box service at 40,000 miles, all good, no issues so far, smooth as silk.
7. w8pmc - had 2 boxes go during ownership. 1st at about 15K miles & the car was stock (had only owned it about 2 months) Soon after i had the car tuned to Sportec/AmD Stage 2-3 & was putting out over 560BHP & lbsft & the box (mapped during tune) was fine through to 40K miles when it failed again. Sold the car soon after that.

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.
13. Bazza (2003) Oettinger remap on ECU/TCU @ 29K (2006) now 39k...fingers crossed all OK
14. Coullboy (2004) GregR1's old motor. Gearbox oil + Filter etc 57K(£360 Specialist cars Aberdeen) , seems to be fine. Engine Standard (59K now).
15. 500bhp (2003) Grizzed, CC Stage2 + TCU, Gearbox oil + Filter etc 95K. All fine
16. Knutts (2003), STD, 78k, no probs and never been serviced.

Failing!!!
1. JD_Hants (2003) Gearbox serviced 80K. MRC Stage 1+ @ 85K, 87K now slipping and clunking and not good!!!

[el_ringo]

Perhaps we can pay the dude to come over with a van load of spares and a drum of oil and service a whole bunch of 6's!

[ecain63]

Why dont we organise a road trip over there? They might do a discount for bulk orders. It'd be a great opportunity to have a 'lads' weekend away.

[CliveH]

I was thinking along those lines...

[p3u]

Throw me into the list

Failed
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
6. skyegtb - New box at 25,000 miles was running MTM 535 then, not sure of failure (previous owner). Now 52,000 miles and been MTM 568'd at same time as box replaced. G/Box service at 40,000 miles, all good, no issues so far, smooth as silk.
7. w8pmc - had 2 boxes go during ownership. 1st at about 15K miles & the car was stock (had only owned it about 2 months) Soon after i had the car tuned to Sportec/AmD Stage 2-3 & was putting out over 560BHP & lbsft & the box (mapped during tune) was fine through to 40K miles when it failed again. Sold the car soon after that.
8. p3u - clutch packs and tc went due to loss of pressure in system at ~91k miles. Stock other then Milltek exhaust at the time.

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.
13. Bazza (2003) Oettinger remap on ECU/TCU @ 29K (2006) now 39k...fingers crossed all OK
14. Coullboy (2004) GregR1's old motor. Gearbox oil + Filter etc 57K(£360 Specialist cars Aberdeen) , seems to be fine. Engine Standard (59K now).
15. 500bhp (2003) Grizzed, CC Stage2 + TCU, Gearbox oil + Filter etc 95K. All fine
16. Knutts (2003), STD, 78k, no probs and never been serviced.

[Cornishmoocher]

Why not just go to the ZF factory here in the UK?

[ecain63]

Have they got one here then mooch?

[CliveH]

Looks like it...

ZF Great Britain Ltd. service location :-

Abbeyfield Road
Lenton, Nottingham NG7 2SX
Email: info.zfgb@zf.com
Phone: +44 115 986 92 11
Fax: +44 115 986 92 61

anyone got time to sort out a "Group service" ?

[ecain63]

Shall we enquire as to wether they'll do a group deal then?

[ecain63]

I'll send an email this avo. I'll post up as soon as i get word.

[RobRS]

Added in to the mix:-

Failed
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
6. skyegtb - New box at 25,000 miles was running MTM 535 then, not sure of failure (previous owner). Now 52,000 miles and been MTM 568'd at same time as box replaced. G/Box service at 40,000 miles, all good, no issues so far, smooth as silk.
7. w8pmc - had 2 boxes go during ownership. 1st at about 15K miles & the car was stock (had only owned it about 2 months) Soon after i had the car tuned to Sportec/AmD Stage 2-3 & was putting out over 560BHP & lbsft & the box (mapped during tune) was fine through to 40K miles when it failed again. Sold the car soon after that.
8. p3u - clutch packs and tc went due to loss of pressure in system at ~91k miles. Stock other then Milltek exhaust at the time.

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.
13. Bazza (2003) Oettinger remap on ECU/TCU @ 29K (2006) now 39k...fingers crossed all OK
14. Coullboy (2004) GregR1's old motor. Gearbox oil + Filter etc 57K(£360 Specialist cars Aberdeen) , seems to be fine. Engine Standard (59K now).
15. 500bhp (2003) Grizzed, CC Stage2 + TCU, Gearbox oil + Filter etc 95K. All fine
16. Knutts (2003), STD, 78k, no probs and never been serviced.
17. Robrs6 (2003) STD, 88K, Box serviced at 50K, still going strong.

[CliveH]

We seem to have lost JD_Hants from the lists, so I've changed the first heading and added to the bottom...

Failed/failing
1. Rupert (2004) Standard power, failed at exactly 60k miles
2. paulm (2002) mrc Stage 1 at 40,000 ish. tc failed 42,000 mls (going manual)
3. batty (2004) STD 61k, gearbox replaced at 57k, no fluid change prior to that.
4. paul23 - STD till 30k, gearbox service at 25k, failed TC at 26k. MTM remap at 30k and on 31k now.
5. Mooch - standard when bought at 20ishk but box started to slip around 22-25k, grizz mapped it and it failed fairly soon after, (it was actually hunting only) gearbox replaced by Audi and not done well- lost oil due to ALL sump nuts only finger tight- grizz sorted.. serviced at 40k all fine. TCU mapped and all ok until 80k. now running big torque and box does not like it. 89k. but still going well if handled with care!
6. skyegtb - New box at 25,000 miles was running MTM 535 then, not sure of failure (previous owner). Now 52,000 miles and been MTM 568'd at same time as box replaced. G/Box service at 40,000 miles, all good, no issues so far, smooth as silk.
7. w8pmc - had 2 boxes go during ownership. 1st at about 15K miles & the car was stock (had only owned it about 2 months) Soon after i had the car tuned to Sportec/AmD Stage 2-3 & was putting out over 560BHP & lbsft & the box (mapped during tune) was fine through to 40K miles when it failed again. Sold the car soon after that.
8. p3u - clutch packs and tc went due to loss of pressure in system at ~91k miles. Stock other then Milltek exhaust at the time.
9. JD_Hants (2003) Gearbox serviced 80K. MRC Stage 1+ @ 85K, 87K now slipping and clunking and not good!!!

Never Failed
1. Dave (2003) MRC Stage 1+ at 80K, still going strong at 110K, box serviced at 80K
2. Gorwanvfr Standard power 39,000 mls still going strong (Never touched)
3. el_ringo (2003) STD until 55,000 mi (Oct08) CCode 1, a 'box service at 60,000 (Mar09) now at 75,000mi (Feb10)
4. CliveH (2002) AMD code since mid 06 55k, gearbox service at 60k (Oct06), still going strong at 90k
5. RS6Steve (2003) Standard 63K still okay (Gearbox full service 62k, No debris)
6.Shoppinit 75000 mls with no problems. ATF changed at 70k and will be at every service now. ATF was clear and clean.
7. Steve Cuz (2003) STD 77k, Gearbox ok, (2 gearbox services in 2009)
8. ecain63 - bought at 50k. MTM1 on ECU and TCU @ 51k. Box serviced every 20k since. Still tight as a Nunns chuff and hit 90k mark today.
9. RS6-4dr911 – 48k mi on original, MTM TCU at 35k, fluid changed at 40k, flushed at 46k, clean fluid on both, will flush every 20k hereafter, just now flashed ECU to Eurocharge Stg.1,
10. woodlum (2002) STD 48k, no probs and works fine, never been serviced, undecided as to service or not??
11. RS6_Dave (2003) Std til 27,500, then MRC Stage 1+ , box map with Service, not a glitch but only on 33k now...
12. MoRS6+ RS6plus, STD, 26k, original ATF, smooth as ice.
13. Bazza (2003) Oettinger remap on ECU/TCU @ 29K (2006) now 39k...fingers crossed all OK
14. Coullboy (2004) GregR1's old motor. Gearbox oil + Filter etc 57K(£360 Specialist cars Aberdeen) , seems to be fine. Engine Standard (59K now).
15. 500bhp (2003) Grizzed, CC Stage2 + TCU, Gearbox oil + Filter etc 95K. All fine
16. Knutts (2003), STD, 78k, no probs and never been serviced.
17. Robrs6 (2003) STD, 88K, Box serviced at 50K, still going strong.

[ecain63]

Email sent. We shall wait for a response.