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Re: Road Rage

Post by Taipan » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:40 pm

Goosfraba...

Gooooooos-fraaaaaa-baaaaa...

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Re: Road Rage

Post by martian » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:47 pm

Goosfraba...

Gooooooos-fraaaaaa-baaaaa...
Qu'est que ce? -or in English- what the feck does that mean?
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Re: Road Rage

Post by markcanderson » Sat Dec 06, 2003 2:17 pm

See the movie Bad Boys 2 - you'll see [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Re: Road Rage

Post by kante3 » Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:09 pm

Oh.....my.....god!

Agree with all of whats been said here - let it go for yours (stress) and his (getting the crap beaten out of him) sake. I can't say the red mist never descends on me but maybe its my age I just let it go, life's too short etc.

When in heavy traffic i.e. crawling its often easier to gently let the clutch out in first or second, the car will then crawl along on tick-over without slipping the clutch.

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Re: Road Rage

Post by dog » Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:43 am

Goosfraba...

Gooooooos-fraaaaaa-baaaaa...
Qu'est que ce? -or in English- what the feck does that mean?
I thought it was "Anger Management"

Anyway it sounds like a monumental waste of time to chase this guy, he was a loud mouth who obviously got scared shitless. I would let him be. You did go to extreme lengths to have a fight though. (remind me not to have an argument with you) [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Re: Road Rage

Post by Dippy » Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:16 pm

Thanks Golich, this is one of the funniest things I've read in ages. I certainly wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of you!

I must agree that the guy is a w***er, and I also agree with you: If we all just calmed down a bit and drove slowly in heavy traffic then we'd all be better off.

Have you re-read your post since you calmed down? Seems to me that you are lucky. That guy may have been a git, but all he did to you was swear and spit at your car. You, on the other hand were chasing him down the streets and as a result he put himself and other road users in danger.

If there had been an accident and people had witnessed you chasing him, then you could have been in trouble: Threatening behaviour and a black belt - many people would have considered you the guilty party.

And of course you were stalking him too!


I'd never have got myself into that situation - I only made blue belt in whatever it was, and am too much of a coward. Plus I'm always worried that the other party will find out where I park my car and vandalise it! And the end of the day I have better things to do with my time...
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Re: Road Rage

Post by Golich » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:08 pm

O I thought I should reply to some of your comments..

I have to say, wise words from you all. It's encouraging to know you’re a fine bunch [img]images/graemlins/acclaim.gif[/img]

I can even stand back and if I were reading my post as someone else I too would come away with the same words of wisdom. "Life is too short..." - Which of course is true.

I appreciate most of you have never met me. Without blowing my own trumpet I'm generally positive, sociable easy going, enjoy a good laugh kind of guy trying to get with everyone. Sure I get pissed off, but it takes something extraordinary before I actually start raising my voice. Not even 14+ visits to my local Audi dealership and 4 visits and one month later out of their paint shop managed to draw the demon out of me [img]images/graemlins/24430-audibash.gif[/img]; Although I certainly felt like it. I always exhaust the dialogue option first.

Despite my enthusiasm for martial arts, believe it or not I actually don't like 'real fighting'.

I genuinely wince and feel sick when I see footage of assaults etc no matter who they are.

After years of experience in competition fighting, fighting has become a game. Where the real skill is in outwitting your opponent. It’s not about kicking ten shades of crap out of him. In the arena, If you did that you were sure to be disqualified and besides I bore no malice to an equal in my sport. And in most cases there was genuine respect for a well placed technique believe it or not a kick in the face where the skill has been in leaving your jaw in one piece – likewise accidents happen and you got one with sure there were plenty of dickheads but if the ref didn’t deal with them then a certain latitude was given.

The presence of mind and the confidence this developed definitely negates the feeling to act first and then suffer the consequences. I have never been involved in a public fight since I was a teenager and that was only through drink and girls. Aaa the good old days… [img]images/graemlins/062802drink_prv.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/gotmesome.gif[/img]

However, on reflection of this road rage event the single most enraging thing for me was the fact that this individual spat at me with a ferocity I've never experienced before.

It was mixture of emotions all at once. First shock, disgust anger then strangely a feeling of vulnerability. It dawned on me while I was sat in my car this clearly irrational individual was out of his and able to continue his unpredictable attack at my new seriously expensive new car as he pleased.

For me, at that moment, in that situation, there was only one reaction, get out and make bloody sure he wasn’t given the opportunity to continue his attack on my car or me for that matter I confront him with what he was playing at.

Initially, it was never in my mind to hit him. Nor did I consider he was going to hit me (nieve on my part, as I went nose to nose with him. Something I always teach in self defence scenarios never to do.) It rapidly dawned on me the vulnerability of this position, so I backed off to a safe distance and continued our argument.

Yes it was pathetic, if your considering what had instigated this i.e. 3 car lengths in a queue. I suppose I should never have given him the wa#ker sign. Hindsite is a wonderful thing. As I said, it really didn’t fuss me in the slightest that he’d gained this distance none of us including him were going anywhere as the traffic is always this bad at that time of day.

Nor was I that fussed when he honked his horn and gave me the dickhead sign.

However, it was obvious that it had become much more to him when he crossed the line of actually getting out of his car. He was clearly of the opinion he was going to show me and was of a mind set to attack first my car, then me and given his clear size advantage over me I’m quite certain he thought he could intimidate me into submission.

I was genuinely surprised when he challenged me to “sort it out around the corner, away from prying eyes.” Hell I the last time I think I’ve heard that was in primary school !!

He was in a shirt and tie just as I was and on any other encounter a professional (as I consider myself!) But given my anger at his actions, and my abilities, (misplaced or not), I thought, “ok I’m up for that challenge.” I’m going to teach you a lesson.

It would never have been about physically hurting him. More a bit of humiliation, a lesson in manners and restraint (Kettle pot I hear some say), but hey, I’m being honest this is what went on in my generally passive head at the time, and even surprisingly to me, for some time afterwards.

I wonder if I would have acted in the same manner if my car hadn’t cost me essentially £35,000 and I wasn’t 2 weeks into ownership.

Yes his evasion robed me of the satisfaction I think I would have gained. Hhmm I suspect this would have ultimately resulted in regret.

Strange things did go through my head as to what if this individual led me to a friends place where there would be more of them as someone said equipped with tools or worse..?

I even considered the guy suffering some heart problem as result of this stress.

Later I thought about my retribution. I would never actually damage his car hence the idea of letting the air out of tires. As someone mentioned I’ve a lot more to loose

Yes – some very strange things entered my head in that highly charged situation. Weird - certainly not things I have ever thought of before.

DavidT’s words are quite poignant and cuttingly true.

The incident was with someone you have never met insulting you because he did not like your driving. You then (ultimately) responded in kind so in my view you are both as bad as each other to that point. What can I say?

What followed did not end the way you expected i.e. a fight so you now feel there is unfinished business. Only you can decide if this is the case but however tough you are, a group of his friends, knives or even guns do not need to be in expert hands to be devastatingly effective do they ?

And what was the original disagreement ? - three car lengths and his view of your driving abilities I think.

Is it worth it ?

Well for me I think sharing this not so nice experience certainly gets it off my chest.

DavidT is right, I do feel there is unfinished business. That this individual got away with spitting on my car, attempting to intimidate me, challenging me to a fight and ultimately getting away only to continue his antics the following day.

But your all correct he isn’t worth the time I’m taking to think and write all this rubbish.

But hey… it gives some of you bored guys on the “Off Chat” section some rubbish to read.

I promise to behave myself at any future meets – honest… well no spitting [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img];

Maybe I should attend anger classes – Or for you that have seen the film “Anger Management” (Starring Jack Nickolson etc. ) I should have started singing in a high pitched voice, “I feel pretty… O so pretty …… [img]images/graemlins/biggrin2.gif[/img]”

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Re: Road Rage

Post by PhilT » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:13 pm

LOL. Now go and stand in the corner, Patrick!!
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Re: Road Rage

Post by Golich » Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:37 pm

O ok then...

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Re: Road Rage

Post by Brooner » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:11 am

An entertaining read [img]images/graemlins/pftroest.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/jump.gif[/img]
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Re: Road Rage

Post by dog » Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:09 am

[img]images/graemlins/biggrin3.gif[/img]
You must admit, "Anger Management" is seriously funny!

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