Charging problem - alternator?

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Charging problem - alternator?

Post by jd_hants » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:25 am

Hi. I have a 2003 RS6 Saloon. 77000 miles

Yesterday the battery light came on in the outside lane of the M25, followed a minute later by loss of all power, leaving me stranded without hazards until the police stopped all the traffic to get in onto the hard shoulder!!! (luckily the traffic was just rolling at the time)!

Anyway, AA man said battery was flat, only 8Volts. Started the car off another battery - fine - but no charge coming to the battery.

We both thought it was the alternator! He said he had worked on another car ages ago and thought there may be a huge fuse (200Amp) which protects the battery from overcharging?? but left it at that and I got Relay to get me home.

Have charged battery overnight and starts fine but only shows about 11Volts on the dial and doesnt vary with revs or anything. Do you think this is a classic alternator packing up or more to it?? Also, anyone any idea of cost? cheers

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RE: Charging problem - alternator?

Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:49 am

Sounds like alternator to me. They seem to fail frequently about this mileage. Mine did.

Maybe someone has another idea?
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RE: Charging problem - alternator?

Post by jd_hants » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:15 am

Hi. Did your alternator just go suddenly then without warning then resulting in a very flat battery very quickly? I was surprised that it went flat so quick and that the battery light hadnt come on much earlier.

I've been on vagcat site and found this: http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/au/RS6/20 ... 7/3700155/
which shows a 200A fuse. This is what the AA man said. A bit more digging and some people have suggested that the fuse can blow just due to age and the metal deteriorating. Doesnt mention where the fuse is located. I may have a look around the fuse box. Worth a shot!

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Post by Shoppinit » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:19 am

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Definitely worth checking, but I'd be surprised if it was this easy.
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Post by hahnmgh63 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:57 pm

I would bet that the fuse is in the engine compartment as you wouldn't put that big of fuse in the passenger compartment because to get that big of fuse to blow you have to generate a lot of heat. I hope for you that it is the fuse as I have heard off this forum that the engine has to be pulled to get at the alternator. Maybe I'll take a look at mine today and see if I can find the fuse.

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Post by Shoppinit » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 am

You can change the alternator without removing the engine, but you've got to disconnect an oil pipe, I believe, so it could get a bit messy.

There is a fuse. It's called a "main fuse". It's under the expansion tank.
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Post by turbonutter68 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:38 pm

My alternator failed at the same sort of mileage.Pretty instant-everything just died!
Cost about £600 IIRC.

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Post by ecain63 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:12 pm

Mine died at 80k. £600 for an independant to do it is pretty standard. Its a fairly tight job requiring a bit of moving of pipes. Just make sure that they dont upset the intercooler hoses whilst doing the alternator. Mine were ruptured while they were doing the alternator and the total cost came to over £2k as it required new i/c and all new hoses. God bless the warranty man!!
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Re: Charging problem - alternator?

Post by albertpl » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:49 pm

jd_hants wrote:Yesterday the battery light came on in the outside lane of the M25, followed a minute later by loss of all power, leaving me stranded without hazards until the police stopped all the traffic to get in onto the hard shoulder!!! (luckily the traffic was just rolling at the time)!
jd_hants wrote:Did your alternator just go suddenly then without warning then resulting in a very flat battery very quickly? I was surprised that it went flat so quick and that the battery light hadnt come on much earlier.
I have exact same thing tonight. Battery showed on the dash, than the power V went down very quick.

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RE: Re: Charging problem - alternator?

Post by Shoppinit » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:37 pm

I seem to remember him changing the alternator shortly afterwards.
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RE: Re: Charging problem - alternator?

Post by jd_hants » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:01 pm

Yes, Audi diagnosed the alternator. Replaced at £700 - fine now so I guess that was the problem.

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