Shopping for Rs4s is scary... anyone know this car Y465 YRS

[trevithick]

Well you learn something every day, I must admit the gearbox seems fine in mine and I've come from the world of Landrover ownership so this RS4 is cheap motoring compared with 14mpg, gearbox every 50k or so (£3500) and £500 per month depreciation etc. If the RS gives any problems I'll just have to repair it I supose, with the money I've saved from not driving a Landy!
You know I'm asking for trouble by saying how wonderfull it is, something has to break now.
To be honest I bought mine because it is unmolested, tight and pink (sounds a bit wrong that?) nothing to do with the year.
Cheers
T

[mikeyquattro]

To be honest I bought mine because it is unmolested, tight and pink

Oh er missus!!

[trevithick]

It was only a matter of time before the level of conversation dropped to Carry On level.
T

[sfrs4]

all this bumkin about weaker gearbox and better engines, get a life. if and only if you rag the sh!t out your car will this effect you and then only if your unlucky. i used to have a skyline gtr and these had "a notorious problem with the gearbox", the syncro's go on third and fourth, i got my gtr and procced'd to drive it very hard for three years and the gear box never let me down once, issues with cars like this are often due to missuse and abuse and nothing more. to assume that you should not own a car like the rs4 because you want a low tax bracket one is just eliteism at it's worse, take you head out the clouds and join the real world. i'd rather own a car thats exactly the same as one six months older but pay £200 a year less on tax, that that idiot goverment of ours will spend on some trivial sh!t and not the road infrastructure. if you have money and want to throw away i'll gladly set up a bank account for you people and i'll put it to some good use.

[mikeyquattro]

sfrs4. Try searching the forum a bit and you might find some valuable information.

http://rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... ox+problem

[Contigo]

all this bumkin about weaker gearbox and better engines, get a life. if and only if you rag the sh!t out your car will this effect you and then only if your unlucky. i used to have a skyline gtr and these had "a notorious problem with the gearbox", the syncro's go on third and fourth, i got my gtr and procced'd to drive it very hard for three years and the gear box never let me down once, issues with cars like this are often due to missuse and abuse and nothing more. to assume that you should not own a car like the rs4 because you want a low tax bracket one is just eliteism at it's worse, take you head out the clouds and join the real world. i'd rather own a car thats exactly the same as one six months older but pay £200 a year less on tax, that that idiot goverment of ours will spend on some trivial sh!t and not the road infrastructure. if you have money and want to throw away i'll gladly set up a bank account for you people and i'll put it to some good use.

What the ^&*(?

I don't think I heard something so silly in a long while. It's a know fact that the earlier cars have had issues related to gearboxes.

So you'd rather have an older one that pay an extra 240 notes a year which in the grand scheme of the running costs assosciated with this car is a drop in the ocean?

Strange mentality there!

[SimonS4MTM]

Simons4mtm why on earth would you pay the same or more for a 2000 model with the weaker gearbox that is more prone to developing the crunching selection problem at a cost of thousands to save yourself 100 quid a year in tax????????????????????? Sorry mate it doesnt stack up

That's my choice to make. I would find it really hard to spend an extra £200 tax on a car that only does 2k miles a year.

I would simply rather have an X reg car that had been well looked after than a newer one.

[SimonC]

Can someone please clarify when the weaker gearbox was fitted? How many cars have been affected?
I would be very surprised if the stronger gearbox coincides precisely with the increase in road tax.

[sfrs4]

right what is this problem? lengster1 says crunching while others say a whining
contigo, like i said it is a "know fact" about skylines to, but i never had any problems! and whats so silly?
mikey i read the post with interest , and did a search and could find no more on it, maybe just not trying hard enough.
again just what a few people say? so therfor a common fault?
seriously, out of the rs4 cars how many were pre gearbox problems and how many after? whens the cut off date? is there a different type of box in the post 2000 cars? if not why different? and how many of the pre 2000 cars have had the problem? these are serious question's, no speculation people, just seroius answers if you've got them. simon

[bastos]

try to pump the clutch twice befor you go to 1st gear...
and then evrything will go smooth... no crunching...
then just drive smooth to avoid the thug and the clunk noise...
(only base on my car and expirience)

[lengster1]

Sfrs4 perhaps you should think before shooting your mouth off when your new to a forum trying to gain knowledge from existing owners,theres nothing eletist about my post just common sense and information,simply pointing out that these cars can come with big bills now and again and a 2000 model car should the gearbox go would far outweigh any tax advantage,the 2000 cars syncro gears were made from a too soft a material and are prone to wearing and crunching/baulking on changes,they were replaced if it failed under warrenty with a revised box that had an x on the end of its part no if i remember correctly,2001 cars got the revised gearbox fitted from new,im going from memory on when i bought my rs nearly 4 years ago,i have no idea when they started fitting the revised box in terms of build no or dates,there are no differences in engines between the years as far as i know,suggest you do a search or do your own homework before telling knowledgeable owners to get a life and get there heads ot of the clouds

[jimbo1234567]

at the end of the day if you thrash your car the box will suffer, common problem is the 1,2 synchro hub which gets locked up, rebuild kits are available. ive got a march 2001 car which has done 6o thousand miles on an mtm chip with increased boost and ive just rebuilt the box. anything can and WILL go wrong with these cars. not just the box so you need to factor that into the budget when your buying a car, just leave a grand contingency fund to one side for when you need it. if you cant do that ,dont get one

[sfrs4]

i agree with the cost of running thing, if you buy ANY high performance car of ANY age you will at some point get a bill you don't want, i have always had a little by the side for problems. lengster1 i am not disagreeing that the cars will and do cost money to run, and ok elitist is a little harsh but you can say the same for your comment, also note my last post, did a search could find no more post's on gearbox faults or common problems. so what your saying is that your not sure on numbers or when, but so far the problem has been with a number of cars from the pre 2000 eraat least now things are back up a little. so who knows where the gearbox id number is stamped?
sorry about the information thing but i came from a very knowlageable site (pre audi) where if someone spoke about a problem/solution it would be backed up with figures, model numbers etc. so when people spoke it was with conviction. and you knew that what was being said was true

[lengster1]

Im not 100% but think the numbers are stamped in the viewable portion of the box from underneath,seem to recall a photo on here at some point but way back,the problem with these cars is theyare rare so main dealers have little general info and tend to be a bit up there own arse unless your buying a new one,a few other things to double check when buying are power steering pumps mine needs doing it feels as if it is low on oil or the belt is loose but apparently they dont fail completely just underperform,its noticeable when parking and tramlines a bit more than normal.Bushes on the rear trailing arms and front link arms can go but dont knock over bumps,there hard to suss out without it being on a fourpost ramp to wiggle everything while the weight is on the wheels,theyre not too expensive to do though unless your paying the £100 an hour dealer rates

[SimonC]

Gearbox info, including code for modified 'box and location of ID number...

http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... box+number