ROLLING ROAD DAY- Sunday 20th April 2008

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Post by musty1 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:02 pm

@brett thanks for the day mate


448BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
422BHP A6 Musty
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
412BHP RS4 Jeffw
360BHP RS4 Neily
268BHP S4 Philws4
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
198BHP S4 AdamS4


If you apply 22% to these you get

546BHP S4 Doug
543BHP S4 Brett
515BHP A6 Musty
512BHP S4 Wiskey180
512BHP S4 Ads4
503BHP RS4 Jeffw
441BHP RS4 Neily
327 BHP S4 Philws4
311BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
241BHP S4 AdamS4 (Actually recorded 257BHP)


my torque figure was 462.4 if i add the 22% that gives 564 lbft of torque i'll be happy with that but maybe it is all talk :roll: not bad for a hurst :wink:
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Post by jeffw » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:18 pm

Generally people consider 20-25% to be the drivetrain losses for a 4wd car. 28% is probable on the high side and 13% is certainly low, although AmD used to use 45% on a regular basis !. The torque figures on the sheets maybe at the the crank or at the wheels, it's not clear from the paperwork itself.
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Post by Ads4 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:24 pm

I think they were a bit high to be at the wheels Jeff. Even adding 13% would put me on 522ish!!

Forgot to say thanks Brett...nice to meet you at last :beerchug:
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Post by jeffw » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:32 pm

I think the torque is calculated crank figures as well.
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Post by dr_wimpkins » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:58 pm

Good to meet up again, even if I was in a bad mood cos of pis poor figures.... Worse than last time with a bust etg...

48BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
422BHP A6 Musty
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
412BHP RS4 Jeffw
360BHP RS4 Neily
268BHP S4 Philws4
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
198BHP S4 AdamS4
367BHP S4 dr_wimpkins torque 415lbft



If you apply 22% to these you get

546BHP S4 Doug
543BHP S4 Brett
515BHP A6 Musty
512BHP S4 Wiskey180
512BHP S4 Ads4
503BHP RS4 Jeffw
441BHP RS4 Neily
327 BHP S4 Philws4
311BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
241BHP S4 AdamS4 (Actually recorded 257BHP)
446BHP S4 dr_wimpkins
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Post by S4INT » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:27 pm

Oi Musty! You deleted my figures :wink:

448BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
422BHP A6 Musty
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
412BHP RS4 Jeffw
360BHP RS4 Neily
356BHP RS4 S4INT
268BHP S4 Philws4
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
198BHP S4 AdamS4
367BHP S4 dr_wimpkins torque 415lbft



If you apply 22% to these you get

546BHP S4 Doug
543BHP S4 Brett
515BHP A6 Musty
512BHP S4 Wiskey180
512BHP S4 Ads4
503BHP RS4 Jeffw
441BHP RS4 Neily
435BHP RS4 S4INT
327 BHP S4 Philws4
311BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
241BHP S4 AdamS4 (Actually recorded 257BHP)
446BHP S4 dr_wimpkins
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Post by Andyuk911 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:33 pm

Add me 0 BHP ... didn't run LOL, but thanks for comment Paul ... interesting
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Post by musty1 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:41 pm

sorry mate must been doing my post when you posted yours
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Post by cpt_splash » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:42 pm

448BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
412BHP RS4 Jeffw
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
356.4BHP cpt_splash

Thanks to Brett and all at Perfect Touch for running a great day. 419.2BHP engine power so that is right on the nose for a Stage 1 remap. 440.7 lbft (597Nm) of torque which I am quite pleased about as that is over MRC's quoted figure. Graham
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Post by cpt_splash » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:48 pm

448BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
422BHP A6 Musty
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
412BHP RS4 Jeffw
360BHP RS4 Neily
356BHP RS4 S4INT
268BHP S4 Philws4
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
198BHP S4 AdamS4
367BHP S4 dr_wimpkins - torque 415lbft
356BHP RS4 cpt_splash - torque 440lbft



If you apply 22% to these you get

546BHP S4 Doug
543BHP S4 Brett
515BHP A6 Musty
512BHP S4 Wiskey180
512BHP S4 Ads4
503BHP RS4 Jeffw
441BHP RS4 Neily
435BHP RS4 S4INT
327 BHP S4 Philws4
311BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
241BHP S4 AdamS4 (Actually recorded 257BHP)
446BHP S4 dr_wimpkins
435BHP RS4 cpt_splash
B5 RS4 - RS6 Calipers/B7 RS4 Discs, H&R ARB's, MRC Custom Remap, RS246 Sticker!! SOLD!!
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Post by jeffw » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:57 pm

448BHP S4 Doug
445BHP S4 Brett
422BHP A6 Musty
420BHP S4 Wiskey180
419.5BHP S4 Ads4
412BHP RS4 Jeffw – torque 464.8 lbft
367BHP S4 dr_wimpkins - torque 415lbft
360BHP RS4 Neily
356BHP RS4 cpt_splash - torque 440lbft
356BHP RS4 S4INT
268BHP S4 Philws4
255BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
198BHP S4 AdamS4




If you apply 22% to these you get

546BHP S4 Doug
543BHP S4 Brett
515BHP A6 Musty
512BHP S4 Wiskey180
512BHP S4 Ads4
503BHP RS4 Jeffw
446BHP S4 dr_wimpkins
441BHP RS4 Neily
435BHP RS4 cpt_splash
435BHP RS4 S4INT
327 BHP S4 Philws4
311BHP S4 (Mapped) S4HRE
241BHP S4 AdamS4 (Actually recorded 257BHP)
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Post by dummi » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:58 pm

ok some standard figures for passenger cars on drive train loss are 3%-8% per transmission in line, in ours they are 3 in line gearbox, torsen, open diff that makes it 9%-24%. cars with a viscous like the s3 would only have 2 transmission losses fwd, and 3 in 4wd mode. when calculating from the RR wheel diameter, car axel weight , the tyre's ability to cause friction, even rotational mass should also be considered to get closer to what it should be, so measuring at the crank itself is more to the point really if that is what is wanted. the RR gives a good comparison of a cars ability to put power down vs. other cars on the day as we know thats about it
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Post by S4 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:58 pm

198BHP S4 AdamS4
this car is standard I take it? is that not still a little low?

anyone have any running probs? too lean/rich or anything.

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Post by buzzard » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:09 pm

I know i'm asking too much here but would be a nice sticky to include BHP, Torque and what mods are needed to give you this result.

(p.s. have been watching the results come through and have to admit there is some amazing results there lads....congrats to all)
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Post by GrahamS4 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:14 pm

I think around 200-205BHP is about right at the wheels for a stock car. What did Paz (RS4 intercoolers only) get at Thorney?
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