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Samco TBB ...

Post by S4TAN » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:42 pm

... FREE to a good home ....

Used (been on my car for nearly a year) but in good nick; no tears etc ... MAP sensor hole trimmed for better fit under engine cover too ....

I know these things can be hard to get hold of so thought i'd offer it up to fellow S4'ers ...

Moderators/Admin: move this post to the Classifieds/For Sale/Wanted section if you so wish, but I posted it here on the B5 S4 forum as (a) I'm not selling it I'm giving it away, and (b) the TBB is specific only to the B5 S4 so thought it better to post here where B5 S4 members hang out ...

Anyone interested let me know (you obviously pay all postage)

P.S. I fitted my APR bi-pipe yesterday so i have no further use for the TBB 8)
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Post by yorkie » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:44 pm

How much of a job was the APR pipe to fit?

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Post by S4TAN » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:39 pm

How much of a job was the APR pipe to fit?
Bit of a PITA: all 4 bolts holding the TB assembly onto the IM were seized solid. Took ages to get them out - had to resort to violence!

Then the 3rd bolt for the bi-pipe is a real bastard to get in ... (anyone who's done this will know what I mean!)
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Post by s4yogi » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:51 pm

I will have it of you if no one else does how much for postage ??

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Post by MCB » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:24 pm

One large latex envelope and a first class stamp should do it - hey Julian?
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Post by dazzer » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:30 pm

That's a shame - just bought one. Wasn't that impressed with the finish TBH and because it is thinner that the OEM boot the OEM clamps don't appear to get tight enough - anyone else experience that?

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Post by S4TAN » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:16 pm

I will have it of you if no one else does how much for postage ??
Sure Yogi - I guess the best thing is to send me an appropriately sized self-addressed jiffy bag with a couple of 1st class stamps on - I'll bag it and pop it in the post to you (PM me for my details)
Wasn't that impressed with the finish TBH and because it is thinner that the OEM boot the OEM clamps don't appear to get tight enough - anyone else experience that?
Know what you mean Dazzer - but they all look like that. They're silicon reinforced hoses so don't have to be as thick as the OEM TBB - and they're definitely stronger than OEM.

As for the clips: just buy some correctly sized jubilees - job done! (jubilee clips held mine on for nearly a year no problem/no leaks/slippage/tearing etc..)

The only reason I went for the APR bi-pipe is 'cos of the boost level i'm running tore the stock plastic charge pipes off the cam covers - quite a good advert for the Samco TBB as it was the only thing holding the pipes to the throttle body!
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Post by dazzer » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:53 pm

Where did you get the super size jubilee clip from? Halfords have some large enough for the two smaller ones.....

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Post by S4TAN » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:58 pm

Any motor parts store should hold a good selection of clips (halfords aren't really a motor parts store IMO - more of a general store)
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Post by dazzer » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:03 pm

Fair point Sir - I need to get my Ar*e into gear.

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Post by Dippy » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:23 pm

When I fitted my bipipe it took me a whole weekend and it tore my hands to shreds. Also one of the threads gave way when I tightened up a bolt. Fortunately I just needed a longer bolt to solve that.

Don't let this put you off doing it though ;)
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Post by tdiquattro » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:36 pm

You should use the large clip from Audi, the revised one that is designed not to cut into the hose, havn't got the Audi part number to hand.

I fitted the APR Bi-pipe......

As has bee mentioned before I had to clean up the inside a bit to get rid of the rough casting, but it was not difficult, and the two L shaped silicone hoses are a bit long, they needed a couple of mm cuting off each end of both, otherwise the DVs sit too far back and up.

The c shaped steel brace that goes onto the bottom 2 holes of the throttle body did not fit, it looks to be a different design to the early ones and binds on the underside of the throttle body, needs some filing off to alow the screws to go in easily.

The 2 long allen bolts that fix the pipe through the top of the throttle body are a bit too short to grab all of the thread, about 2 or 3 mm longer on each would be perfect, 90mm bolts with 2 washers were fine for me - I only mention this as I managed to strip part of the thread on one of them! - duh. (I was very careful with the torque) anyway the longer bolts did the trick.

This is because the top right hand thread on the manifold is countersunk by 2mm

The other cock up I made was to damage the throttle body, The existing allen blolts were seized in, I used an impact driver to get the lower right one out (everything else oil etc had failed) thought nothing of it, reassembled everything and the car wouldn't start! - It turns out I shattered the magnets in the motor inside the TB !! - fitted a new throttle body and all is well.

You can fit it by the way without removing the headlight, it's tight but will just go.

So get 2 longer bolts, don't hit the screws to loosen them!, and shorten the l hoses by a couple of mm both ends.

so not at all ideal, but it works well now it's on.

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Post by S4TAN » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:08 pm

Yep - longer bolts are a must! (i stripped the thread in the IM). And agree that the steel brace is a bit crap: at first i thought the hole for the 3rd bolt was drilled in the wrong place as i just could NOT get the bolt in .... but a lot of "finessing" got it sorted in the end (and a massive amount of swearing)

I had to use a hammer, screwdriver and a pair of mole-grips to get the 4 bolts out holding the throttle body in - fortunately it seems i haven't damaged the TB itself (car runs great so far!)

Didn't trim the DV hoses as mine seem to fit ok ..

....and I shredded my hands too ... (there's a lot of my blood in that engine bay!)

Once it's on it's a great mod - but anyone interested in doing this should prepare for a day of blood, sweat and anguish!
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Post by CliveH » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:32 pm

and I thought I was the only one who struggled with this...! :shock:
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Post by S4TAN » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:37 pm

and I thought I was the only one who struggled with this...!

WTF?! :shock: You actually did this yourself Clive???! I'd have thought you'd have got one of your minions to do it for you ... after all: this is quite a physical task to achieve ... :lol:
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