KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

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KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by viperbl » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:23 am

Anyone know the difference between the above?

Things like,

At what RPM do they spool up?

How well do they hold boost to the redline?

What kinda of HP/Torque can be expected from each with an RS4 engine with larger injectors and fuel pump.

I need to decide which one hybrid I am gonna get ....
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RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by S2tuner » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:13 am

540 crank HP max I'd say for either. The hot side is too small for anything higher than that. If you want proper power, get modified RS6 turbos, they're really worth it!!!

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Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by viperbl » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:19 am

S2tuner wrote:540 crank HP max I'd say for either. The hot side is too small for anything higher than that.
I've been told the KO4/RS6 have a smoother power curve ...
S2tuner wrote:If you want proper power, get modified RS6 turbos, they're really worth it!!!
Stop it! :P I would love to! but the bank (or shud I say credit card :shock: ) manager is saying no! :lol:
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RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by S2tuner » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:27 am

I know I know I know but IMHO and IME straight RS6 turbos (modded to fit) do a better overall job... That's what I'm going with next, unless I get tempted by the GT series demon tempting me....

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RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by JonnyX » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:59 am

GT! GT! GT!......

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RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by S2tuner » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:27 am

Wanna donate me some funds Jon? :lol: I'm a few thousand pounds short :(

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Post by JonnyX » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:13 pm

I think I will be donating you at least a thousand pounds (probably two) in the not too distant future anyway!!!
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Post by S2tuner » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:06 pm

If only that could be 100% profit and all of it could go towards my GT conversion.... I wish... anyone know how to build turbos here? lol
JonnyX wrote:I think I will be donating you at least a thousand pounds (probably two) in the not too distant future anyway!!!

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by Alps » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:16 pm

How much would it be to buy & fit some mod'd RS6's... including all the other essential bits?

And what on earth are the GT series thingy's???
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by dummi » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:55 pm

Jacob recommended k04/rs6 base over the k04/24 cos of the small hot side thingy could not cope with anything over low rpm boosting

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by ZeroK66 » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:42 pm

GT - I assume you mean Garrett GT2x? I saw APS or whoever they are in the states were developing a GT28 based setup for the S4... given the GT25 managed 1.9bar the 28's must be mental. Laggy on the 1.8t though... anyone done it? Any results?

New manifolds though :(
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by JonnyX » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:58 am

The GT28 kit for S4 is about $13k. You need lots of other stuff beside manifolds (downpipes, oil and water lines, inlet pipes, outlet pipes etc.). The
GT series looks like a much better designed and more reliable turbo to me though (But I'm no expert ;-) )
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by Hutch » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:13 pm

I thought Garret didn't make a turbo that runs well from 1.35L of exhaust gases? While the GT turbos will make decent power at high rpm the compressor maps available mean serious lack of power mid range?

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by JonnyX » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:40 pm

http://www.autospeedperformance.com/aud ... /GT25R.htm

Looks like you are making more power than a chipped car after 3500RPM.
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: KO4/RS6 or KO4/24

Post by viperbl » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:59 pm

JonnyX wrote:http://www.autospeedperformance.com/aud ... /GT25R.htm

Looks like you are making more power than a chipped car after 3500RPM.
That is very very interesting Jon!! mmmmm
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