Fuel saver or complete waste of £9.99?

All things related to Audi and other manufacturers
reserves
4th Gear
Posts: 522
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:57 am

Fuel saver or complete waste of £9.99?

Post by reserves » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:23 pm

You know what they say about things that sound too good to be true....

Anyone ever tried anything similar?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/audi-a2-a3-a4-a6- ... dZViewItem

User avatar
saf
5th Gear
Posts: 1334
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:39 pm

RE: Fuel saver or complete waste of £9.99?

Post by saf » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:28 pm

That looks like utter ball locks

if it were true, it would be a lot more than £9.99

Some of the things on thre made me laugh.

Dont waste your money mate.

Put it in your petrol tank instead. At least will put a smil eon your face when your right foot goes down.

User avatar
Dr-Al
3rd Gear
Posts: 487
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:45 pm
Location: Round the bend

Post by Dr-Al » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:46 pm

For a magnetic field to have any effect on combustion, it would need to be present at the point of combustion. Any effect that the magnet has on the liquid fuel will be temporary and will fade within milliseconds of the fuel passing through the field.

In any case, petrol is predominantly hexanes and other 5 to 10-carbon hydrocarbons. These molecules do not have a dipole moment, so you could pass them through the biggest, most powerful magnet in the world and their chemical properties will remain unaltered.

As for the claim that it will "break and then realign the hydrocarbon chains". If this were true, then petrol would be much cheaper to produce because the process of refining crude oil into useable fuel would no longer rely on high temperature zeolite cracking.

Summary: Washing and waxing the car is likely to have more effect on acceleration and mpg than this will.
Wrecked on 9 Oct 2007: 1998 Cactus Green S4, 710N DVs, Boost gauge (in custom A-pillar/dash mounting pod), cruise control retro-fit, Parrot 3200 Colour Hands Free, RS246.com sticker

S4TAN
Cruising
Posts: 3966
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:05 pm
Location: Planet of the Apes

Post by S4TAN » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:56 pm

Excellent explanation Dr-Al - a thorough assassination of this sh!tty con-job magnet!
Deus ex machina

reserves
4th Gear
Posts: 522
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:57 am

Post by reserves » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:59 pm

Thanks.

Dr-Al- not sure how you know all that but cheers!

I'll put the £10 in the tank.

MCB
Top Gear
Posts: 1670
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: Manchester

Post by MCB » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:25 pm

Nice one Dr Al!
S4B5 Avant

User avatar
CliveH
Cruising
Posts: 4754
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:07 pm
Location: Yorkshire, UK

Post by CliveH » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:29 pm

reserves wrote: Dr-Al- not sure how you know all that but cheers!
He's a scientist... :shock:
Clive

S2 ABY coupe, S4 B5 saloon, S4 B6 avant
RS4 B7 phantom black saloon, mint, fully loaded, low mileage - FOR SALE!- http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=88981
S8 D2 facelift, RS6 C5 saloon, both gone but not forgotten

bobjebb
Top Gear
Posts: 2200
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:27 pm
Location: Location, Location

Post by bobjebb » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:32 pm

Excellent dissection, Doctor...

Someone please send him that argument and blow his hair-brained scheme out of the water!
RS4 B5. Where it all started.
RS6+ Never to be replaced.
Replaced by: 997 Turbo. Didn't like.
Replaced by RS6. I like(d).
Land Rover Defender. Not as nippy.
Back with C6 RS6
And again C7 RS6

DavidT
Cruising
Posts: 6096
Joined: Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:46 pm
Location: Cheshire

Post by DavidT » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:23 pm

Dr-Al wrote:For a magnetic field to have any effect on combustion, it would need to be present at the point of combustion. Any effect that the magnet has on the liquid fuel will be temporary and will fade within milliseconds of the fuel passing through the field.

In any case, petrol is predominantly hexanes and other 5 to 10-carbon hydrocarbons. These molecules do not have a dipole moment, so you could pass them through the biggest, most powerful magnet in the world and their chemical properties will remain unaltered.

As for the claim that it will "break and then realign the hydrocarbon chains". If this were true, then petrol would be much cheaper to produce because the process of refining crude oil into useable fuel would no longer rely on high temperature zeolite cracking.

Summary: Washing and waxing the car is likely to have more effect on acceleration and mpg than this will.
Great post, didn't understand most of it, but the humour was not lost on me :thumbs:

User avatar
CliveH
Cruising
Posts: 4754
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:07 pm
Location: Yorkshire, UK

Post by CliveH » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:37 pm

DavidT wrote:
Dr-Al wrote:For a magnetic field to have any effect on combustion, it would need to be present at the point of combustion. Any effect that the magnet has on the liquid fuel will be temporary and will fade within milliseconds of the fuel passing through the field.

In any case, petrol is predominantly hexanes and other 5 to 10-carbon hydrocarbons. These molecules do not have a dipole moment, so you could pass them through the biggest, most powerful magnet in the world and their chemical properties will remain unaltered.

As for the claim that it will "break and then realign the hydrocarbon chains". If this were true, then petrol would be much cheaper to produce because the process of refining crude oil into useable fuel would no longer rely on high temperature zeolite cracking.

Summary: Washing and waxing the car is likely to have more effect on acceleration and mpg than this will.
Great post, didn't understand most of it, but the humour was not lost on me :thumbs:
I understood every word (well maybe not "zeolite"!)...it's just when you put all the words together that I get a bit lost... :lol:
Clive

S2 ABY coupe, S4 B5 saloon, S4 B6 avant
RS4 B7 phantom black saloon, mint, fully loaded, low mileage - FOR SALE!- http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=88981
S8 D2 facelift, RS6 C5 saloon, both gone but not forgotten

User avatar
simple1
Cruising
Posts: 3721
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Somerset
Contact:

Post by simple1 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:58 pm

All makes sense to me.......... you cant treat petrol with magnets, as its structure is not that which can be affected by magnetic influence, or that any affect is short lived.......... but then I am an engineer too.........

fletchie55
4th Gear
Posts: 565
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:42 am
Location: plymouth

Post by fletchie55 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:01 pm

I cant believe anyone would ever buy that! hahahaha
I wonder if I can make a fotune selling bottles of fresh coastal air....any takers?!!!

User avatar
simple1
Cruising
Posts: 3721
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:32 am
Location: Somerset
Contact:

Post by simple1 » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:10 pm

Would that be windy air or still????? :rocker:

philipwalker
5th Gear
Posts: 1488
Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:00 pm
Location: Pembrokeshire
Contact:

Post by philipwalker » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:47 pm

Wasn`t there a bloke floggin` wind from huricane Katrina last year?
http://www.pwmotorsport.com

PW Motorsport
01437 563929

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Post by Paulm » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:15 am

I watch myth busters when offshore they did a test last weeks or so trying out all these type of things and every one they tested either had no effect or made mpg worse.

They even tried Toluene mixed with fuel cant remember what it was supposed to do but anyway it made mpg way worse :lol:
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

Post Reply

Return to “General Car Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 83 guests