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Post by shineydave » Fri May 26, 2006 4:51 pm

you can check the speedo reading against the more accurate reading available from the climate control panel, i've done this and confirmed my speedo does over read by 10%
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Post by S4 OXON » Fri May 26, 2006 10:02 pm

ACPO guideline is supposed to be +10% +2mph which means 79 is tolerable on a 70 limit. But it is only a "guideline".

There is more on this in the Motor Cycle News MCN is a bike newspaper out on wednesday, But have more of this in this week's

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Post by dazzer » Fri May 26, 2006 11:34 pm

peterb wrote:I'm thinking that it's simply too much hassle to go chasing motorists who don't respond. They must collect more than enough contributions from those who do pay up.

I gather that there is a 6 month time limit on serving a summons, but I'm not sure when the six months starts.
I agree this is the most likely reason - partnerships and constabularies don't have the resources to pursue those that don't want to play the game, which relies on subtle harrasment and a law structured in such a way that challenges the principle of innocent before proven guilty. You are more likely to get pursued when a ban is likely. Just proves the point that it's a cash cow for the government.

There are two points that the law can summon you for - either the speeding offence or for not providing the details of the driver under s172. There is a time limit of six months from the date of the alleged offence within which they must serve papers to the court - not on you. It's 6 months from the time the NIP expires (normally 28 days) for an action under s172 - could be longer if you engage in correspondence and they give you more time to divulge the driver's details.

As for the notion that you can't defend yourself in court - you can. The technology is notoriously unreliable and often not operated properly. The ACPO guidlines are frequently ignored and it's worth challenging if you are up for the fight. Most CPS clerks never even see the case until about 30 minutes before it's heard in front of the magistrates.

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Post by CliveH » Sat May 27, 2006 9:24 am

You got off then Dazzer...?
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Post by dazzer » Sat May 27, 2006 6:41 pm

Yes - without going to court either - although I was prepared to go the distance.....

Most people don't want the hassle and are reluctant but nevertheless prepared to give up their sixty notes. Unfortunately insurance companies will use it against you to increase your premiums. In my case it was £1250 extra over 3 years.

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Post by harry » Sat May 27, 2006 6:45 pm

1250 extra over 3? OMG

they really do have us danglin by the short n curlies between a rock and a hard place......and all that jazz...i'd be sick as a parrot...and no mistake
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Post by ChipHazzard » Sat May 27, 2006 8:13 pm

I know a mate who got the dreaded flash about 6 years ago (twice in under a month) both different constabularies and he filed the paper work for safe keeping but have never heard another thing. He also got caught by a temp van up in the scottish borders one sunday afternon about a year ago and did the same thing and last time it got mentioned he's not heard anything more, so it looks like in his case it paid to keep stum
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