Gruppe m Ram filter set up

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Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by D4RSE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:18 pm

Just a thought! is this a good mod for everyday driving? how much cabin noise under load do you get? if anyone has got some valid info on this product i would be gratefull.
cant seem to find much info on system

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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by sonny » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:23 pm

Video clip, however the back bench is out so makes it a little louder http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... 9J0SF50CW4

also vid at the ring, both taken on different videos, so noise levels are different http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... MdzuX6JmSY

Did you read the link I sent about the GruppeM installation and heat shield?
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Post by RSKiwi » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:27 pm

D4RSE wrote:Just a thought! is this a good mod for everyday driving? how much cabin noise under load do you get? if anyone has got some valid info on this product i would be gratefull.
cant seem to find much info on system

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No problems with everyday driving but you do need a remap to set up your MAF correctly. It doesnt really let you know its there if you are just driving smoothly around the city or open road but as soon as you put it under load it sounds fantastic.

A good example: I took my friend who had never been in my car for a spin and I was taking the piss a bit and not really putting my foot down but acting like I was. He said that my milltek sounded great when I had my foot 'down' but when I really put it down he just said 'Holy SH!T...the sound !' That was primarily down to the GruppeM.

If you have the opportunity to get one do it, you wont regret it.
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by RSKiwi » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:29 pm

sonny wrote:Video clip, however the back bench is out so makes it a little louder http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... 9J0SF50CW4

also vid at the ring, both taken on different videos, so noise levels are different http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... MdzuX6JmSY
You just love posting that track vid up Sonny!

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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by sonny » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:34 pm

Just for the newbie's benefit Pakeha ;)
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Post by Jules » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:43 pm

$hit does that sound good Sonny,another video i need to keep away from till funds build up :roll: :lol:
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by leadfoot » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:54 pm

So are the benefits just the sound (not complaining about that)?

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Post by sonny » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:58 pm

leadfoot wrote:So are the benefits just the sound (not complaining about that)?
Yes and better throttle response, in fact perfect throttle response.

Warm air getting into the induction system is the biggest factor, the MAF senses this and retards the timing, anything from 20bhp can be lost. I took massive measures to preserve the cold air. So had fitted a CAF, heat shield and heat wrap for the system, and it cured about 70% of the warm air.
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Post by RSKiwi » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:06 pm

sonny wrote:
leadfoot wrote:So are the benefits just the sound (not complaining about that)?
Yes and better throttle response, in fact perfect throttle response.

Warm air getting into the induction system is the biggest factor, the MAF senses this and retards the timing, anything from 20bhp can be lost. I took massive measures to preserve the cold air. So had fitted a CAF, heat shield and heat wrap for the system, and it cured about 70% of the warm air.
Sonny makes a good point, a CAF is a must with this, its one of my next mods as soon as my car is out of warranty. There is a marginal increase in torque too.
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by D4RSE » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:13 pm

sonny wrote:Video clip, however the back bench is out so makes it a little louder http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... 9J0SF50CW4

also vid at the ring, both taken on different videos, so noise levels are different http://www.youtube.com/user/sonnyjh?fea ... MdzuX6JmSY

Did you read the link I sent about the GruppeM installation and heat shield?
yes very interesting, looks a neat job too! dont like the sound of losing power over noise, if you know what i mean! very helpfull.
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by Jules » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:14 pm

I think you both forgot to mention how amazing it looks :rocker:
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Post by RSKiwi » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:30 pm

Jules wrote:I think you both forgot to mention how amazing it looks :rocker:
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by sonny » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:34 pm

ok if you must..
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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by Rick_RS4 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:42 pm

sonny wrote:
leadfoot wrote:So are the benefits just the sound (not complaining about that)?
Yes and better throttle response, in fact perfect throttle response.

Warm air getting into the induction system is the biggest factor, the MAF senses this and retards the timing, anything from 20bhp can be lost. I took massive measures to preserve the cold air. So had fitted a CAF, heat shield and heat wrap for the system, and it cured about 70% of the warm air.

do you think a shield under the MAF body and oem intake tube would make any effect on readings, i was thinking about fitting one as its above the exhaust manifold, possibly wrap it like a turbo wrap?

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Re: Gruppe m Ram filter set up

Post by sonny » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:43 pm

Rick_RS4 wrote:
sonny wrote:
leadfoot wrote:So are the benefits just the sound (not complaining about that)?
Yes and better throttle response, in fact perfect throttle response.

Warm air getting into the induction system is the biggest factor, the MAF senses this and retards the timing, anything from 20bhp can be lost. I took massive measures to preserve the cold air. So had fitted a CAF, heat shield and heat wrap for the system, and it cured about 70% of the warm air.

do you think a shield under the MAF body and oem intake tube would make any effect on readings, i was thinking about fitting one as its above the exhaust manifold, possibly wrap it like a turbo wrap?
Did you read the thread I did Rick about the heat management for the GruppeM? http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... eat+shield
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