Nah just worthy of respect! secondary explosion may add another 100bhp!!!sonny wrote:Hmm so is 131 dagrees Highmfire wrote:Err are you sure? My understanding of 'flash point' is that this is the critical temperature that when a flame (spark) is applied to the vapours of a substance it will momentarily flash. if this happens in a confined space it can and does lead to an explosion!! If so better keep my temps down!pippyrips wrote:It doesn't!
SR-71's oil was found to have a flashpoint of just 100 degrees c when he had it professionally analysed after 5k use.
Out of interest what oil/spec do audi use for fixed servicing?
How often do you get your RS4 serviced??
Re: RE: How often do you get your RS4 serviced??
P_G,
Cognizant of my own experience I have asked Audi UK what oil I should use bearing in mind I have observed such high operating temps for the oil.
But no answer...yet.
Anecdotally, Audi have told me they agree that 125C is far too hot for a 5w-30 oil.
Yet again, the owner who wants to use his car as the RS4 publicity suggests (i.e., at a track) now has a connundrum on his hands: Use a 5w-30 oil which gets real hot but maintains his warranty, or something like Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 (although they now do a 5w-30 as well) which, may or may not get as hot, but will at least retain some of its viscosity at those temperatures, but will presumably, void his warranty?
I should have results on how the Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 holds up under similar conditions in due course but I am reasonably confident that if US cars run 5w-40 under their warranty scheme, it isn't going to cause huge problems for Euro cars.
Again, there are demonstrable results that show RLI's 5w-40 reduces wear in this engine.
Simon at Opie Oils has yet to get back to me with results from their lab regards the RLI 5w-40 which I have provided them for analysis.
They will decide on that basis whether to stock the oil for owners here in the UK.
I know if my car was out of warranty I would not think twice about using that oil.
I also believe there are more developments afoot to improve things further.
The other solution is, I suppose, to over-size the oil cooler(s) slightly....I'm not sure whether that is easy or not?
Cognizant of my own experience I have asked Audi UK what oil I should use bearing in mind I have observed such high operating temps for the oil.
But no answer...yet.
Anecdotally, Audi have told me they agree that 125C is far too hot for a 5w-30 oil.
Yet again, the owner who wants to use his car as the RS4 publicity suggests (i.e., at a track) now has a connundrum on his hands: Use a 5w-30 oil which gets real hot but maintains his warranty, or something like Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 (although they now do a 5w-30 as well) which, may or may not get as hot, but will at least retain some of its viscosity at those temperatures, but will presumably, void his warranty?
I should have results on how the Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 holds up under similar conditions in due course but I am reasonably confident that if US cars run 5w-40 under their warranty scheme, it isn't going to cause huge problems for Euro cars.
Again, there are demonstrable results that show RLI's 5w-40 reduces wear in this engine.
Simon at Opie Oils has yet to get back to me with results from their lab regards the RLI 5w-40 which I have provided them for analysis.
They will decide on that basis whether to stock the oil for owners here in the UK.
I know if my car was out of warranty I would not think twice about using that oil.
I also believe there are more developments afoot to improve things further.
The other solution is, I suppose, to over-size the oil cooler(s) slightly....I'm not sure whether that is easy or not?
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Been reading this with interest , oil is like tyres , dont skimp and buy the best . I didnt like putting in 5w30 in this engine , it runs too hot when pressing on (though dont think I have seen over 125 degrees yet)! a symptom of this is the amount of oil volatizing and evaporating then landing up coating much of the intake system .
So last service , nearly 6000 miles ago I had it filled with Motul 300v 5w40 - and guess what , my oil consumption has dropped from around a litre every 1500 miles to none !! still on the full mark , no top ups !! BUT I guess that means no fresh oil being added between changes.
I have now bought silkoline pro s 5w40 for a try as opie suggested that might be a better road oil .
Anyway , I have had no problems so far with 5w40 and will continue to use it because I reckon it suits this engine better
So last service , nearly 6000 miles ago I had it filled with Motul 300v 5w40 - and guess what , my oil consumption has dropped from around a litre every 1500 miles to none !! still on the full mark , no top ups !! BUT I guess that means no fresh oil being added between changes.
I have now bought silkoline pro s 5w40 for a try as opie suggested that might be a better road oil .
Anyway , I have had no problems so far with 5w40 and will continue to use it because I reckon it suits this engine better
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