Ordered one

[RS Owner]

The Comfort and Sound pack forces you to have the "advanced key" which I think is a bummer. Cars with the advanced key are sooooo easy to nick (keyless entry systems).

[doodlebug]

The ZF8 is used in lots of other cars, LOADS.
ZF8 appears to be a revolution in torque converter autos. Its now OK to fit one to a performance car. It is in the Alfa Gulia Quad and the new M5, and will be in the new M3.

All the reviews have always been positive, ALL. It's obviously a very good box.
ZF8 will possibly be a fraction of a second slower on Nurburgring but much better in road traffic and everyday use.

It has its place at a price point. Mac, Fezza, Pork, Lambo etc etc is all dual clutch as it is the performance option.

[Markp]

Nice Graeme, not going ramics this time?

No, not this time
They're a nice to have rather than a need to have, and although the driving benefits are pretty big with the reduction of unsprung weight, they're also a very expensive ticking time bomb if you damage one (£6,400 for the front discs alone)
I went a bit silly on the spec of my current B8 as I was feeling flush at the time, and the reality is, I barely use half the stuff I spec'd, so I'm going a bit more realistic this time.
For example, I don't think I opened the Panoramic roof once last year, but still had to pay to have it serviced, and I never use the lane assist other than the novelty when I first got the car in 2014 to show my kids it could steer for itself
Having just had to have the DRC changed in my car, I don't think I'll bother with that either as I've only ever used the dynamic setting once, and it was too stiff for even the smoothest surface. You'd have hoped that after all the issues with the B7, Audi would've fixed or ditched the system for the B8, but mine's been in twice for damper replacements now. Luckily, it's been covered by the warranty both times
I've not driven a B9 without the dynamic suspension, but did drive a B8 without it and it rode just as well as the Dynamic car in its comfort setting, which is what I drive around in anyway

Be careful. My research suggest the standard suspension is firmer than B8 which is quite supple. . Autocar talk about low speed jiggle - among others.

[Graeme4130]

Nice Graeme, not going ramics this time?

No, not this time
They're a nice to have rather than a need to have, and although the driving benefits are pretty big with the reduction of unsprung weight, they're also a very expensive ticking time bomb if you damage one (£6,400 for the front discs alone)
I went a bit silly on the spec of my current B8 as I was feeling flush at the time, and the reality is, I barely use half the stuff I spec'd, so I'm going a bit more realistic this time.
For example, I don't think I opened the Panoramic roof once last year, but still had to pay to have it serviced, and I never use the lane assist other than the novelty when I first got the car in 2014 to show my kids it could steer for itself
Having just had to have the DRC changed in my car, I don't think I'll bother with that either as I've only ever used the dynamic setting once, and it was too stiff for even the smoothest surface. You'd have hoped that after all the issues with the B7, Audi would've fixed or ditched the system for the B8, but mine's been in twice for damper replacements now. Luckily, it's been covered by the warranty both times
I've not driven a B9 without the dynamic suspension, but did drive a B8 without it and it rode just as well as the Dynamic car in its comfort setting, which is what I drive around in anyway

Be careful. My research suggest the standard suspension is firmer than B8 which is quite supple. . Autocar talk about low speed jiggle - among others.

I hadn't seen that, but will look it up. Cheers

[rjwojcik]

Nice Graeme, not going ramics this time?

No, not this time
They're a nice to have rather than a need to have, and although the driving benefits are pretty big with the reduction of unsprung weight, they're also a very expensive ticking time bomb if you damage one (£6,400 for the front discs alone)
I went a bit silly on the spec of my current B8 as I was feeling flush at the time, and the reality is, I barely use half the stuff I spec'd, so I'm going a bit more realistic this time.
For example, I don't think I opened the Panoramic roof once last year, but still had to pay to have it serviced, and I never use the lane assist other than the novelty when I first got the car in 2014 to show my kids it could steer for itself
Having just had to have the DRC changed in my car, I don't think I'll bother with that either as I've only ever used the dynamic setting once, and it was too stiff for even the smoothest surface. You'd have hoped that after all the issues with the B7, Audi would've fixed or ditched the system for the B8, but mine's been in twice for damper replacements now. Luckily, it's been covered by the warranty both times
I've not driven a B9 without the dynamic suspension, but did drive a B8 without it and it rode just as well as the Dynamic car in its comfort setting, which is what I drive around in anyway

What did they do to service the sun roof? A dab of grease, maybe?

[rjwojcik]

The Comfort and Sound pack forces you to have the "advanced key" which I think is a bummer. Cars with the advanced key are sooooo easy to nick (keyless entry systems).

Can you code out the Advanced Key? I'm in the same predicament. Absolutely no interest in having Advanced Key.

[Graeme4130]

Nice Graeme, not going ramics this time?

No, not this time
They're a nice to have rather than a need to have, and although the driving benefits are pretty big with the reduction of unsprung weight, they're also a very expensive ticking time bomb if you damage one (£6,400 for the front discs alone)
I went a bit silly on the spec of my current B8 as I was feeling flush at the time, and the reality is, I barely use half the stuff I spec'd, so I'm going a bit more realistic this time.
For example, I don't think I opened the Panoramic roof once last year, but still had to pay to have it serviced, and I never use the lane assist other than the novelty when I first got the car in 2014 to show my kids it could steer for itself
Having just had to have the DRC changed in my car, I don't think I'll bother with that either as I've only ever used the dynamic setting once, and it was too stiff for even the smoothest surface. You'd have hoped that after all the issues with the B7, Audi would've fixed or ditched the system for the B8, but mine's been in twice for damper replacements now. Luckily, it's been covered by the warranty both times
I've not driven a B9 without the dynamic suspension, but did drive a B8 without it and it rode just as well as the Dynamic car in its comfort setting, which is what I drive around in anyway

What did they do to service the sun roof? A dab of grease, maybe?

Yeah, pretty much... and then charge something like £150

[Surrey Sam]

Be careful. My research suggest the standard suspension is firmer than B8 which is quite supple. . Autocar talk about low speed jiggle - among others.

I hadn't seen that, but will look it up. Cheers

What Car also comment about the standard suspension not being ideal.

https://www.whatcar.com/audi/rs4/estate ... -the-road/

[rjwojcik]

What did they do to service the sun roof? A dab of grease, maybe?

Yeah, pretty much... and then charge something like £150

[Graeme4130]

Be careful. My research suggest the standard suspension is firmer than B8 which is quite supple. . Autocar talk about low speed jiggle - among others.

I hadn't seen that, but will look it up. Cheers

What Car also comment about the standard suspension not being ideal.

https://www.whatcar.com/audi/rs4/estate ... -the-road/

Just read both reviews, and looks like I need to spend another £2k

[Markp]

I hadn't seen that, but will look it up. Cheers

What Car also comment about the standard suspension not being ideal.

https://www.whatcar.com/audi/rs4/estate ... -the-road/

Just read both reviews, and looks like I need to spend another £2k

Good choice!

[535dboy]

I hadn't seen that, but will look it up. Cheers

What Car also comment about the standard suspension not being ideal.

https://www.whatcar.com/audi/rs4/estate ... -the-road/

Just read both reviews, and looks like I need to spend another £2k

Might as well order ceramics as well then.

[cuttsy]

You can then start the DRC B9 issue thread...

[Surrey Sam]

Just read both reviews, and looks like I need to spend another £2k

Sorry.

You could always sell me your ceramics and then it'd be, a no cost option.

[Graeme4130]

Just read both reviews, and looks like I need to spend another £2k

Sorry.

You could always sell me your ceramics and then it'd be, a no cost option.

Wonder if they’d even notice if I handed it back with steel
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