Water Injection
Water Injection
Has anyone ever tried water injection (Aquamist or simular) as a way of increasing power.
Pros and/or cons ?
Seems a reasonably cheap way of keeping temperature low...
Tom
Pros and/or cons ?
Seems a reasonably cheap way of keeping temperature low...
Tom
Not tried it yet but have been looking into it (I have my eye on a kit!). There are quite a few brands out there offering some very tempting kits at reasonable prices. A friend of mine is currently fitting one to his car, so I will wait and see what improvements it makes. His car isn't an Audi, but it will still be interesting to see what sort of gains the water injection will make.
Tomson,
Guy has an aquamist kit fitted to his supercharged VR. Might be worth giving him a shout on the ccgb board to see what he has to say about it.
I think once it is set up it works quite well, but with a turbo'd RS4 I would have thought bigger intercoolers would be a better option...
Cheers,
John.
Guy has an aquamist kit fitted to his supercharged VR. Might be worth giving him a shout on the ccgb board to see what he has to say about it.
I think once it is set up it works quite well, but with a turbo'd RS4 I would have thought bigger intercoolers would be a better option...
Cheers,
John.
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this is a link that i have found on water injection
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/rescr/rescr.html
thinking of fitting to my S4
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/rescr/rescr.html
thinking of fitting to my S4
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Hi guys, discussed here http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... highlight=, but I only used it as direct port and not on the I/C's. It worked very well indeed
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With adequate intercooling, water injection usually works best post-intercooler as the benefits are realised in-cylinder from detonation suppression.
If the ECU has pulled timing because of detonation, it may be able to advance the ignition timing again and gain more power and torque.
It really gains power though when the base ignition maps are advanced to suit the smoother cylinder pressure profile, and also the fuel dumping is reduced as you can use the water rather than fuel for cooling. However, if you then depend on it, you need a water flow sensor (which Aquamist can provide) to say drop the boost if the water fails as otherwise you could lose an engine. I found that you gain rather more with ever increasing concentrations of methanol injected instead of water, although not everyone else has found this. An easier method for me was methanol in the fuel tank, but that is frought with other considerations but can work astonishingly well, with 40 BHP gain in power. In the end I just got an even bigger turbo to cut hassle.
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If the ECU has pulled timing because of detonation, it may be able to advance the ignition timing again and gain more power and torque.
It really gains power though when the base ignition maps are advanced to suit the smoother cylinder pressure profile, and also the fuel dumping is reduced as you can use the water rather than fuel for cooling. However, if you then depend on it, you need a water flow sensor (which Aquamist can provide) to say drop the boost if the water fails as otherwise you could lose an engine. I found that you gain rather more with ever increasing concentrations of methanol injected instead of water, although not everyone else has found this. An easier method for me was methanol in the fuel tank, but that is frought with other considerations but can work astonishingly well, with 40 BHP gain in power. In the end I just got an even bigger turbo to cut hassle.
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Nice write up John. Had a quick look at Scoobynet..... Welcome to RS246 John, looks like you bring a wealth of knowledge.
Got to admit "0-60 3.9 (wet), 0-100 8.7, 0-125 12.1" is impresive, but is it appropriate for a sig?
Got to admit "0-60 3.9 (wet), 0-100 8.7, 0-125 12.1" is impresive, but is it appropriate for a sig?
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