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Post by MCB » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:04 am

Impressive work there Rich congrats. :thumbs:
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Post by >RS4< » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:02 am

Very impressive indeed!! :rocker:
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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:43 am

Who can help ...

I have taken the weight of the engine and put a jack under the gearbox to take the weight on that side.

Now, the subframe is not moving that much, heavy item, but I am wondering if I am going to have the to lift the engine out anymore, possibly above the subframe so I can aline it properly? Am I wasting my time trying to do it with it in place, even if it is just a few mil?
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Post by smurfbus » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:21 am

those holes are just guidelines. You would be better of by doing a 4wheel adjustment on a good shop with some good feedback. If the balance was spot on before you can try to maintain it by spraying some paint over the attaching points before removing the subframe and then use those marks to get it close to what it was. But that does not help you now, just FYI.

But to help this situation I think you just need to lift the car (not engine or tranny) loosen the subframebolts and it will move (mine did).

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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:28 am

smurfbus wrote:those holes are just guidelines. You would be better of by doing a 4wheel adjustment on a good shop with some good feedback. If the balance was spot on before you can try to maintain it by spraying some paint over the attaching points before removing the subframe and then use those marks to get it close to what it was. But that does not help you now, just FYI.

But to help this situation I think you just need to lift the car (not engine or tranny) loosen the subframebolts and it will move (mine did).
I hear what your saying ... Thats not a bad idea.

I am looking up where the main front bolt goes into the chassie, and I can see where it has gone before with the clean and oily part, I hope if I get it back there, it will at least be like it was before ...

So, in all fairness, even if the holes are lined up, it may not be exact ?
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Post by smurfbus » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:14 pm

Lots of different points besides that make the geometry right, but its a good guideline for later alignment.

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Post by MCB » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:00 pm

Rich are you planning on going to the ring? Just a thought however if you are coming over you could call in at Awesome on the way and have it aligned on their machine - did a great job on mine.
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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:20 pm

Did they move the subframe etc???? hmm ... I am going to the ring, I get in at 17:30 on friday and then drive overnight to Dover ...

Might consider getting an earlier boat ...
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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:15 pm

Just spoke to Andy at Awesome, ok they will not touch the subframe etc, but, if I was to get the subframe as dead on as I can, then get them to do a 4 wheel alingnment I should be spot on then? everyone agree??!???!
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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:49 pm

Decided to book it in, make sure its dead on for Germany then ... no point going with a crabbing car!!! :P lol
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Post by flashyg » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:59 pm

Great Work,
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Post by smurfbus » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:20 pm

Only way to even camber out is to move subframe but if you dial it with those holes and there is no collision damage it should be close. Its strange that even good shops dont do the alignment correctly.

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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:24 pm

Smufbus, Do you know of anywhere that might help re-aline the subframe (if out any) as well as doing a 4 wheel alingment???
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Post by smurfbus » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:05 pm

Sorry I live in scandinavia. Any audi dealer 'should' know how to do it by the book but I dont personally like to take my audi near any audidealers : (

In theory you should also adjust bump steer which is very technical and needs special tools too to adjust. I dont know anyone who has done that though. Just take it to your friendly alignment shop and you can see if it needs subframe adjustment from the camber values. If they differ too much some side to side adjustment is needed.

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Post by viperbl » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:24 pm

ARGGGG! Tried to align the subframe, now, when I come to a stop I hear (and feel) a creak...

I just hope to god it needs to settle in overnight (wishful thinking!) otherwise I might need to pray that a certain professional in the UK might be able to help me out and squeeze me in!!! :? :?

I just replaced the engine mounts as well (as they where creaking before I did this) and to think it was not creaking before I touched the subframe again!!!
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