To Mod or Not To Mod...

[graemep]

In terms of ARB's, the H&R's are apparently stiffer than the Hotchkis ones and additional support brackets are available from MRC - changing the rear drop links is also advised. The car feels a lot more stable for it, even on stock suspension (for now).

Personally, I have been limiting mods to those which are easier to reverse, or would be easier to justify in a sale - if I was buying now I would happily take a well sorted stage 3 car with uprated brakes and suspension.

Gutting the pre-cats is a common mod, but it is quite labour intensive (at least 5-6 hours), as it means removing and refitting the downpipes - slightly more than upgrading the DP's. I considered this option, but went with a full Milltek instead.

Can't really comment on QST, having only spoken to them on the phone, but can vouch for the work MRC would do - theirs is also a custom remap done while you are driving.

[stumpyrs4]

Ta
Booked in with MRC now...

[rtd]

In terms of ARB's, the H&R's are apparently stiffer than the Hotchkis ones and additional support brackets are available from MRC - changing the rear drop links is also advised. The car feels a lot more stable for it, even on stock suspension (for now).

Personally, I have been limiting mods to those which are easier to reverse, or would be easier to justify in a sale - if I was buying now I would happily take a well sorted stage 3 car with uprated brakes and suspension.

Gutting the pre-cats is a common mod, but it is quite labour intensive (at least 5-6 hours), as it means removing and refitting the downpipes - slightly more than upgrading the DP's. I considered this option, but went with a full Milltek instead.

Can't really comment on QST, having only spoken to them on the phone, but can vouch for the work MRC would do - theirs is also a custom remap done while you are driving.

i was under the impression that the hotchkiss ones were stiffer than the h&r's?

[Nige_RS4]

Gutting the pre-cats is a common mod, but it is quite labour intensive (at least 5-6 hours), as it means removing and refitting the downpipes - slightly more than upgrading the DP's. I considered this option, but went with a full Milltek instead.

Gutting the pre-cats should only take an hour more than fitting the Milltek DP's as the originals have to come off anyway???

[frazered]

In terms of ARB's, the H&R's are apparently stiffer than the Hotchkis ones and additional support brackets are available from MRC - changing the rear drop links is also advised. The car feels a lot more stable for it, even on stock suspension (for now).

Personally, I have been limiting mods to those which are easier to reverse, or would be easier to justify in a sale - if I was buying now I would happily take a well sorted stage 3 car with uprated brakes and suspension.

Gutting the pre-cats is a common mod, but it is quite labour intensive (at least 5-6 hours), as it means removing and refitting the downpipes - slightly more than upgrading the DP's. I considered this option, but went with a full Milltek instead.

Can't really comment on QST, having only spoken to them on the phone, but can vouch for the work MRC would do - theirs is also a custom remap done while you are driving.

i was under the impression that the hotchkiss ones were stiffer than the h&r's?

me too

the h&r are 32mm at front and 21mm at back

hotchkis extremes are 35mm at front and 22mm at back

http://www.avalonmotorsports.com/index. ... ucts_id=84

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/ ... ct=3815858

as mentioned you have to buy the support brackets for the h&r's if you want to avoid subframe cracking, thats why the hotchkis are great value as these are included already

[lengster1]

Guess you had a change of mind and went with mrc? Worth comparing like i said eh mate?

[graemep]

Gutting the pre-cats is a common mod, but it is quite labour intensive (at least 5-6 hours), as it means removing and refitting the downpipes - slightly more than upgrading the DP's. I considered this option, but went with a full Milltek instead.

Gutting the pre-cats should only take an hour more than fitting the Milltek DP's as the originals have to come off anyway???

Thats what I was getting at hence "slightly more than upgrading the DP's", not suggesting it would be any quicker going the Milltek route. I got a bargain on the Milltek which was the only reason I didn't gut the precats on mine.

[KiwiRS4]

I recently got my H&R's off an outfit in Germany (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0158233886) Very quick delivery, great price and professional service.

[stumpyrs4]

Guess you had a change of mind and went with mrc? Worth comparing like i said eh mate?

Yeah, MTM sounded fine. MRC is only about an extra 45mins drive, so no biggy really.

Ta

[Doug_S2]

Hotchikis are not as stiff as h&r on S4 or rs6 fitment.