Sell S4 and get RS4 or mod it to hell??

Post by **quattronutter** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:27 pm

ZeroK66 wrote:I would accept £18k (market at 20k) and lose about 12k+

bloody hell...you spent that much on it

Post by **imolas4uk** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:32 pm

ZeroK66 wrote:I would accept £18k (market at 20k) and lose about 12k+

yep an rs4 would of cost 20k spend another 2k and your going quickly

Post by **quattronutter** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:43 pm

depends if your paying someone else though i guess,my s4 owes me 13k should be well over 500bhp,and thats including next years upgrades...and rs4 bodywork,maybe 14k all in by next year after a few more bits and bobs

Post by **spen** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:22 am

Jeez, I thought that was yellow paint, not gold plate

where did all that go? not just on the 500 bhp I hope?

Post by **derdle** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:24 am

From a purely financial point of view...doesn't that settle the argument?

Post by **saf** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:45 pm

Ill be doing my S4 upgrade over the next few months.

Its a 2000 with 130K motor way miles. Turbos on way out and clutch gone so I may as well get it upgraded.

I was in 2 minds whether I should upgrade or not, and still am in a way but Ive decided to take the plunge and go for it. Cars worth about 7K in current condition without clutch working. Engine holds compression well, drives like new, and car has had every single factory extra avaliable from new.

I already have spent a fair bit, including ARB's DTS, Bi pipe, 3inch downpipes, RS4 clutch flywheel, B7 RS4 brakes, RS4 Intercoolers, which come up to nearly 4K. On top of this, I just got some refurbed K04's which I will get fully refurbed and modified into hybrids, along with the ported manifolds, lowered compression, new alternator, starter motor, oil pump, RS4 engine mounts, gearbox mounts , cambelt change, a remap and the labour to go with it. Best part of 6K.

Thats going to be a total value of 17K I could have in cash if I sold the car and didnt do the work.

In 5 months time, What will I get for the car If I decided to sell it? Answer is, not more than 12K I should think.

If the cars worth 7K at present (because clutch s not working), and its allfixed up with literally everything new and running around 500 brake, then thers no way I would get more than 12K for it especially at that mileage.

If you will mod you will lose, its as simple as that. If you mod the car, then make sure youre going to keep it for a while yet. Even if its 2 years, make sure you get your fun out of it. The extra 10K that you will put in, make sure you get it out when you put your foot down. If it makes you smile and you can afford to not see the cash again, then its worth it.

Look at it this way, Someone with a Ferrari Modena 360 spends a lot of cash just with the upkeep. Now although its a Ferrari, and that would put a grin on most faces anyway, its not value for money. With the S4 however, you can get more brake horse power than the ferrari, more resale value in terms of what you get back from what you spent, and also convenience of a 4 door saloon. Thats how I choose to look at it. Otherwise Id go nuts trying to justify the cost and be unhappy about it all.

The best thing to do, is to be happy when you mod. If youre depressed about losing money over it then theres no point. Sell up and get an RS4. That will hold its value way better. And you will be happy with it (If your driving style doesnt demand the low down torque).

I was going to go the RS4 route, but I ust love the way the S4 drives. I wouldnt swap the my S4 for an RS4 because Id be dissapointed with the drive and having to downshift to get the power down. If I did a lot of otorway driveing then I would prefer the RS4. but I dont. S I think its a question of what driving style do you like best. Whatever makes you feel happy go with that. If the cost of it all makes you constantly unhappy then go for a diesel. Only you know whether you can afford the ups and downs of owining a particular performance car.

Just be happy and what ever you decide to do try and have no regrets.

Hust like Derdle says, If you dont "do it now" you never will.

Post by **ZeroK66** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:52 pm

spen wrote:Jeez, I thought that was yellow paint, not gold plate

where did all that go? not just on the 500 bhp I hope?

Lol...

Car cost 13k
500BHP cost 13k
Suspension £2k in total
Brakes cost £2k
Wheels, extras, DTS, Mirrors, Short Shifter, Boost Gauge, Alternator, New A/C Pump etc etc etc... ~£3k??

Sadly that makes what I lose if I sold at £18k closer to 15k!!!

If I was to sell I would probably strip it bare and sell the bits that can come out wtihout the engine being removed then sell it as a "K04" S4.

Saf... may interest you...

Post by **quattronutter** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:40 pm

you only live once so have some fun while you can,thats my opinion,its only money

Post by **saf** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:46 pm

ZeroK66 wrote: Saf... may interest you...

Although your car looks stunning in yellow, Id be after a black or silver one. It would draw too much attention in my area and Im after the stealthy look.

Youre right, it would be difficult to get 18K for your car as it is, unless someone out there really loves yellow and wants all those mods at the same time. you have extremely low mileage on yours which is a major positive and does make it worthwhile as a package for 18K. But noone wants to pay that momey just because a car is modded unfortunately.

If you do sell your canary, then what are you thinking of replacing it with?

I find an RS4 very laggy at certain revs, and id only get an RS4 if I strapped on another 15K for stronger rods, full engine rebuild, head work and Stage 2 RS6 turbos. But then Id in the same boat as im in now. It wouldnt be worth the 15K more that Id have spent getting it there.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:59 pm

I find an RS4 very laggy at certain revs,

Chipped RS4's don't have to be laggy - mine pulls hard from 2700rpm ~ 22psi. In fact I don't think it's far off what my S4 felt like lag-wise, but it isn't as easy to get off the line - maybe that's just the clutch??

I know I posted I thought the RS4 was very laggy when I first got it, but that was due to a pair of seized Forge BPV's.

Post by **S4TAN** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:05 pm

I got my S4 for £7K with 50K miles on it (discounting the PX for my previous car) - I figure I dropped around £7K on it in modding engine/turbo/braking/suspension/drivetrain/multiple remaps etc ... so; £14K for a ~430bhp/500lbf.ft car. Not too shabby in my book!

Also: having driven an RS4 I must say I didn't like it compared to the S4.

Finally: you can get an S4 saloon - RS4 comes in estate car/dog bus format only!

Post by **MarkB** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:09 pm

Looking at your figures Leon you must be counting labour costs in what you've spent. You'll never get any of that back let alone the full value of the parts fitted.

Post by **Blue_Thunder** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:12 pm

Jeebus, i've spent the best part of £30k on mine to get a measly 400bhp, and it's never out of the f**king garage!

Post by **S4TAN** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:17 pm

Jeebus

Post by **Stigter** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:17 pm

Break it down into a spreadsheet and drop it on the forum so others can see the costs before thinking of going that route.

Yeah but what else could you have bought for 30k?

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