To VAG-Com users, FATS times database for the Euro S4s

[cpufreak]

did some runs last night...playing about with boost and timing with my SPS3...
running boost 6 timing 4 I got a FATs time of 5.19 seconds.

output from vagcome is:
http://badger.ing.me.uk/vagcomlog.html

I was logging blocks 003, 020, 115...(I know cylinders 5+6 are missing from that as they are in 021, but damn Vagcom only lets you log 3 blocks ).

so looking at that I can probably turn the timing up a bit, as there is no pull back...and maybe when I get time I'll watch temperatures some more too and turn up the boost slightly

Car is: 2000 S4 saloon, revo, milltek full system with cats, green panel filter.

road was flat, dry, outside air temp was 14.5 degrees.

[DavidT]

I did a few runs tonight, temp was 6c, full tank of fuel (optimax & millers octane booster) + fat driver and got: 4.85, 4.95, 4.88, 4.92, 4.96, 4.84, 4.86.

Here is the vag-com output from the first one:

111.22 2440 78.14 100 17.3
111.53 2520 97.94 100 16.5
111.84 2680 123.36 100 14.3
112.14 2840 152.28 100 12.8
112.44 3000 167.19 100 12
112.74 3200 177.44 100 9
113.05 3400 187.64 99.6 10.5
113.35 3600 196.53 100 10.5
113.65 3760 205.11 100 11.3
113.95 3960 209.08 100 9.8
114.26 4160 217.89 100 12.8
114.57 4320 223.17 100 11.3
114.89 4520 228.42 100 11.3
115.21 4720 233.47 100 13.5
115.54 4880 232.31 100 15
115.87 5040 236.72 100 13.5
116.21 5240 243.58 100 15
116.56 5400 249.61 100 15
116.91 5560 256.08 100 15.8
117.27 5720 256.81 100 17.3
117.62 5880 261.08 100 18
117.98 6040 264.47 100 19.5
118.35 6200 262.64 100 19.5
118.74 6320 262.64 100 21
119.12 6480 263.39 100 21
119.5 6600 259.75 100 24
119.87 6760 257.61 100 24.8
120.25 6880 260.11 100 25.5
120.63 6920 149.36 26.3 30.8
121 6920 27.92 11.8 50.3
121.37 6720 20.31 8.6 50.3


I am very happy with the numbers, just a bit worried that I did it wrong, so any input on them appreciated.

[S2tuner]

David, these numbers look really good, they put you in the 345-350 HP range (pretty darn close to what I had guesstimated based on MAF readings) and that's still running your precats and cats!!!!

I guess getting rid of your precats should get you close to 365 HP, should be really good then....

By the way, I can't see much wrong in the way you've done the FATS runs, they are pretty consistent, and as long as you've done them on a flat bit of road, they have to be ok IMHO...

Cheers,

Mihnea

[JonnyX]

That MRC timing looks pretty good

[Dippy]

I'd like an MRC remap too but can't really justify it at the moment - my current DIS average speed reading is 16mph!

[NeilMc]

Mine is around 22 average, but just for the 30 seconds when you get an open road ahead, it's all worth it.

[DavidT]

David, these numbers look really good, they put you in the 345-350 HP range (pretty darn close to what I had guesstimated based on MAF readings) and that's still running your precats and cats!!!!

I guess getting rid of your precats should get you close to 365 HP, should be really good then....

By the way, I can't see much wrong in the way you've done the FATS runs, they are pretty consistent, and as long as you've done them on a flat bit of road, they have to be ok IMHO...

Cheers,

Mihnea

Thanks Mihnea.

I am happy with that. The calculator you linked to said 334 at the flywheel, why do you think it's more ? and what difference does the timing actually make?

I think I need to accelerate the downpipe / 200 cell cat plan a bit

I did the logs on one piece of road, 3 one way, 2 in the opposite direction (of 2 & 3), then 2 more the same as 1 & 2. Pretty scientific for me.

I did a run in 6th from 2000 to 5600 rpm on the test track as well if anyone wants to see it.

[S2tuner]

David, what have you logged from 2 to 5.6k RPM in 6th gear? Feel free to email it to me...

Regarding the timing, I'll explain all this to you sometime soon but for now I'd say your timing is good at WOT

cheers,

Mihnea

[smurfbus]

where are all the BIG boys numbers. I'm sure there are some built 2.7 engines ( Germany, Sweden, Poland and Norway came to mind) that have run under 3sec. I would like to see their logs or numbers.

Or how about some AMD stg3 numbers? If I can run mid 3 sec with ICs, exhaust, k04s and injectors I wonder how safe big ships are tuned and how unsafe my homebrew tuning is ; )

[Mik]

Sub 4secs is very quick for your mods IMHO. Very nice..

Mik

where are all the BIG boys numbers. I'm sure there are some built 2.7 engines ( Germany, Sweden, Poland and Norway came to mind) that have run under 3sec. I would like to see their logs or numbers.

Or how about some AMD stg3 numbers? If I can run mid 3 sec with ICs, exhaust, k04s and injectors I wonder how safe big ships are tuned and how unsafe my homebrew tuning is ; )

[smurfbus]

except that I'm now under 3sec ; ) 32F though and about 100oct.

[Mik]

Cool, am curious whats your data - exact time and car weight?

except that I'm now under 3sec ; ) 32F though and about 100oct.

[smurfbus]

details in the fats database. dunno bout the weight, cf hood, pre facelift, lightweight battery.

[Mik]

Looks like you have the fastest time of all

http://fats.audi-quattro.org/

Either you have loads of power (450BHP +) or a very light car....or both.

[smurfbus]

One thing to remember. there are much faster S4's who dont want to share their numbers!