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calculating Torque

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:58 pm
by musty1
To all you brainy people,

Can anybody tell me how to work out what toqure a engine will do?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:40 pm
by MCB
There you go...

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:41 pm
by Philws4
Or if you have VAG COM then view/log channel 120 whilst doing some runs in 3rd gear.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:21 am
by musty1
cheers mate

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:14 am
by dazzer
MCB wrote:There you go...
Is that in Nm or lbs/ft? :roll: Sorry - guessing it's lbs/ft.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:39 am
by MCB
No worries and you guessed right.

And just in case anyone is interested, where does 5,252 come from?

HP = 550 foot pounds per second

Engine RPM = 0.10472 radians per second

550 divided by 0.10472 = 5,252

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:05 am
by dazzer
Eee your'e just too quick - my next question was re the constant.

Anyone remember what point on the RPM peak torque occurs on a standard S4?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:17 am
by MCB
Taken from the Audi S4 Engine PDF:

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:30 am
by dazzer
Thanks:

1 Lb-Ft = 1.35582 Nm.

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:54 am
by MCB
:thumbs:

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:01 am
by bobbler
Heres an MRC custom remap for you too ;)

http://www.ryanopie.com/rollingroads/31.jpg

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:09 pm
by S4TAN
Interesting stuff ...

Anyone know at what revs a K04 car (+ big injectors, no pre-cats or cats, RS4 i/c's, MRC custom re-map etc) would make its peak torque ... ?

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:12 pm
by MarkB
S4TAN wrote:Interesting stuff ...

Anyone know at what revs a K04 car (+ big injectors, no pre-cats or cats, RS4 i/c's, MRC custom re-map etc) would make its peak torque ... ?
No idea, but I'll be taking mine to the Janspeed Rollers again in the not too distant future. Be great to see yours on there...

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:52 pm
by S4TAN
No idea, but I'll be taking mine to the Janspeed Rollers again in the not too distant future. Be great to see yours on there...
I'm up for that Mark - Doug estimated mine to be about 430bhp/480ftlb ... so adjusting the formula to:

RPM = (5252xbhp)/torque gives peak torque at ~4,700rpm ...

It "feels" like i'm getting peak torque a bit lower than that in the rev range (maybe 4.5Krpm), which puts me around 500ftlb... highly unscientific i know - so will be good to get it on the rollers and get some more definitive figures ... see how close Dougs estimate is.

Let me know when you're going ...

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:58 pm
by GrahamS4
Get down to Aylesbury Julian, it's only local - dyno dynamics dyno same machine type as I see Doug and Mihnea's latest power runs were done on and also used by myself KayGee recently and DavidT in the past.

Comparing your and KayGee's car would be a good comparison.