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Post by dace » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:58 pm

djcevo wrote:RS6 stage 2 mate. The only way forward, leaves CSL's and SL55's for dead.

I very much doubt that an RS6 with 13 bhp more than an SL 55 would leave it for dead!!!! I admit that the SL is slightly heaver but this would conteract the lack of 4 wheel drive transmission loss.

Dont think there would be anything in it personally. Apart from traction off the line....
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Post by tartan_rob » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:36 pm

As we are in the bragging mode, my B5 S4 wasted an SL55 AMG and a 996 PorscheTT and my mates V12 DB7..........on the Porsche beasting the new owner was in the S4, he is on this forum somewhere....

All the other drivers were mightly pissed off as my car was badged a 1.9Tdi. Can you tell I miss that car...?
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Post by RSfor » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:25 pm

Is it a joke?

You kill 996TT??

You must have a supercharger or something like that.....because a 'normal" S4 is simply eated by the cars you say....

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Post by BlingBling » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:34 pm

Read his signature. He had B5 S4, turbo charged, modified to produce 450bhp.......So on this occasion an S4 did eat a 996TT

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sl55 waisted by 450bhp s4 i think not

Post by avant545 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:27 pm

guys i drive a sl55 and i map cosworths up to 550 bhp as my living,and i can assure you there is no way a s4 will destroy a sl55 in a straight line,one your car will have too much lag and the torque of the v8 supercharged merc engine is far superior,secondly the merc is two wheel drive and the audi 4wd sorry does not add up,the guy in the sl55 most of had his handbrake on or it was in a lay by,Sorry to be so straight to the point but i have driven some really fast cars in my time and i have never had a s4 or rs4 get any where near my car unless its wet.Dont think iam getting at audis as i have a rs4 b7 on order and i drive a 3.0 tdi avant as my everyday car,as harry hill would say FIGHT!!!!!,maybe meet up one day with this modified s4 and have a run round castle combe against the sl55,now that would be fun or iam going to nurbergring in april how about down there.
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RE: sl55 waisted by 450bhp s4 i think not

Post by DavidT » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:54 pm

Big difference between a cosworth engine at 2 litre with one turbo and a B5 S4 or RS4 at 2.7 litre and two turbos for the same power. There is very little lag with these cars.

I've had a few goes against decent opposition and I'll take you up on your offer, lots of us will be at the ring 14-17 April. Have a look at the thread in the trackdays and meets forum. Hope to see you there.

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Post by avant545 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:34 pm

give us some torque figures dave compared against the sl55,have driven several b5 rs4 which have been modded by amd and yes there quick but the argument here is this s4 against a standard out of the box sl55 there is no comparison believe me,and yes if you want a drag style comparison with a rs4 against a sl55 no probs,do lots of work with gareth nuttall and collins performance centre in congleton so will private message you for a meet up when im up there next mapping and we will get it on film so theres no argument.

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Post by S2tuner » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:37 pm

is 450 to 500ft/lb enough for you?

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torque figures for sl55

Post by avant545 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:49 pm

standard torque is 700nm at 2750 rpm to 4000 rpm,dont want this to turn into a war its just my opinion a s4 with 450 bhp would not waste a sl55 as stated in a previous posting and iam happy to try and prove it and if wrong would be the first to bow down and say iam wrong,as previously stated we are talking about a straight run up to say 120mph,handling is far superior on the rs4 and s4 compared to sl55,why do you think i have ordered a rs4 because i hope it will be an all rounder.


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RE: torque figures for sl55

Post by DavidT » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:25 pm

This deserves a new thread me thinks :)

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Post by dace » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:24 am

avant545 wrote:give us some torque figures dave compared against the sl55,have driven several b5 rs4 which have been modded by amd and yes there quick but the argument here is this s4 against a standard out of the box sl55 there is no comparison believe me,and yes if you want a drag style comparison with a rs4 against a sl55 no probs,do lots of work with gareth nuttall and collins performance centre in congleton so will private message you for a meet up when im up there next mapping and we will get it on film so theres no argument.

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Now there's a challenge David. I would love to see that and................maybe join in!! :sekret:
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Post by MugelloR » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:38 am

So to recap and back on thread a tad!! .....The M3 CSL still fairly and squarely, or so it would appear in the video, royally trounced the B7 RS4 Avant!!! yes? :roll:

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Post by tartan_rob » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:24 pm

Avant545 - We need to stay on thread here, Dave is right. But the S4 did eat it alive, 450 was a modest estimate, Doug reckoned more in the region of 480. Here is a 80-125mph run on video in the very car (it does it in approx 4.5 seconds), you'll notice the massive amount of lag the car has got...NOT! You should really get yoiur facts straight first.

http://videos.streetfire.net/category/A ... ccb53b.htm

Back to thread though.......those CSL's are quick, perhaps the CSL was re-mapped or something?
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Post by s4woody » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:11 pm

oh pissed..i had a nice play in my M5 yesterday with a B7 RS4..not much in it..who ever got the drop 1st took the win..im trying to get the guy to register on here and maybe do the ring trip..
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Re: sl55 waisted by 450bhp s4 i think not

Post by dace » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:36 pm

avant545 wrote:guys i drive a sl55 and i map cosworths up to 550 bhp as my living,and i can assure you there is no way a s4 will destroy a sl55 in a straight line,one your car will have too much lag and the torque of the v8 supercharged merc engine is far superior,secondly the merc is two wheel drive and the audi 4wd sorry does not add up,the guy in the sl55 most of had his handbrake on or it was in a lay by,Sorry to be so straight to the point but i have driven some really fast cars in my time and i have never had a s4 or rs4 get any where near my car unless its wet.Dont think iam getting at audis as i have a rs4 b7 on order and i drive a 3.0 tdi avant as my everyday car,as harry hill would say FIGHT!!!!!,maybe meet up one day with this modified s4 and have a run round castle combe against the sl55,now that would be fun or iam going to nurbergring in april how about down there.
lol simon
I had a play with an SL55 today and it was very very close. I pulled away slightly in third gear at the top end. Great noise from the merc, however I was surprised how it seem to run out of steam towards the end of the rev range....
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