RS7 APR Reflash....

[Mr Footlong]

I thought about the DSG etc after I posted but I have had 3 hours sleep in 2 days thanks to a client getting the very latest variant of cryptolocker on their system, after refusing my mitigation procedures that I wanted to put in to place, they disconnected from their RDC login, leaving it running rampant for over 5.5 hours before I got wind of it at 1am on Saturday morning.

I am currently recovering/decrypting over 7.5 million documents and have 250-odd consultants bleating at me .

Yes, waffling, I really want an up to date auto. Mash pedal from start, rinse, repeat.

P.S. I like Canada eh and don't think of you as a yank, just your geekiness scares me lol.

[sakimano]

S-tronic has 'dry' clutches. Tiptro has wet clutches. Are his concerns almost entirely unwarranted? Sorry, I just thought I'd be tedious and anal, like you, for once...

lol

I think he was more concerned with poor driving technique making a mess of it than the hardware itself spontaneously failing when being used properly (on a manual)

Fortunately software for torque converters and dsg ensures great driving and no cockups, and it will also step in to protect the car if there's an issue.

The b8 s4 guys hit the strip more than any S/RS platform ever has. A couple of thousand passes have been logged. We still haven't seen a DSG clutch failure. One guy has approximately 300 dragstrip passes on his DSG (making around 500hp 475tq...his best run is 11.6 @ 118) and who knows how many more standing start launches away from it. He has had no problems in 4 years. Another guy just last weekend made 35 1/4 mile runs in 3 hrs (yes, crazy) in his dsg b8 and he probably has another 100 passes. Perfect operation, no issues.

On the manual side, april 19 a friend and i made 23 and 18 passes respectively in our b7 RS4s, testing the gains of jhm exhaust, tune and lw parts . No issues whatsoever. As long as you drive it correctly, its fine. A road course (twisty track) day with three twenty minute sessions is far more likely to injure a clutch because there's more going on for the driver to worry about and get it wrong. Going straight is easy.

This was about the 15th run of the day.

JHM B7 RS4 4.2 FSI V8 1/4 Mile Battle - 12.29@112…:

http://youtu.be/p4SGcn2MRMw

[VARSITY]

Saki, you still haven't answered my question.

Who is ripping off the masses and why?

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Wow.

[sakimano]

Saki, you still haven't answered my question.

Who is ripping off the masses and why?

I did answer your question. You're just fishing for me to anger a site sponsor , and that's pretty lame.

[RIV]

VARSITY wrote:
Saki, you still haven't answered my question.

Who is ripping off the masses and why?
I did answer your question. You're just fishing for me to anger a site Sponsor , and that's pretty lame.

I doubt that site sponsor would be bothered by you,or even interested in your boring dribble

[VARSITY]

Saki, you still haven't answered my question.

Who is ripping off the masses and why?

I did answer your question. You're just fishing for me to anger a site sponsor , and that's pretty lame.

No, its not lame at all.

You come on here and proclaim that we are a bunch of idiots for accepting dyno results and as a consequence we are being ripped off.

As you made this comment I want to know who is ripping us off and why.

However it seems you now can't answer this question which means your argument and commentary is not worthy of our time.

[sakimano]

Saki, you still haven't answered my question.

Who is ripping off the masses and why?

I did answer your question. You're just fishing for me to anger a site sponsor , and that's pretty lame.

No, its not lame at all.

You come on here and proclaim that we are a bunch of idiots for accepting dyno results and as a consequence we are being ripped off.

As you made this comment I want to know who is ripping us off and why.

However it seems you now can't answer this question which means your argument and commentary is not worthy of our time.

2 things from this reply are clear

1. you don't like being caught out at your little game.

2. you like to exaggerate. Where did I say you were all idiots??? I said that dyno marketing isn't good for the market without acceleration data...then showed that the premier tuner in your market is using acceleration data to support the dyno (and raising the standard). I also said the marketplace appears content to just accept the dyno, but unfortunately it has led to some lesser companies forcing their way in and parting some people from their precious pounds.

A great example is a company called PES, famous for great dynos and dogshyte performance (not to mention a history of poor build quality and tuning destroying engines). They were all run out of their home market after we demanded acceleration PROOF of performance. A few people got scammed and bought their M90 kit unfortunately. Once those guys tested the car, we all realised PES was selling hopes and dreams in the form of a fancy dyno sheet. So what did PES do? Change their ways? nope.

They turned to the European market where the dyno trickery still sells parts. Now why would they do that? Because the barrier to entry is non-existent. They did well over here, even putting a UK sales rep in place (spinner from A50c) in order to flog their garbage to his forum friends. Right around this time, MRC was working with TTS on the Rotrex supercharger kit, and one thing MRC/TTS did was take the cars to the dragstrip (Santa Pod) to show what they could do. Sure enough, blindingly fast acceleration and great results. PES didn't follow of course. The market didn't care. They were (and are still) happy to buy the unproven dyno sheet.

Having seen PES pull these tricks over here, I posted about their history on A5oc. Showed the forum the horrible business practices. Showed statements from engineers at the supercharger manufacturer they were using that said there's no way the kit could even make the claimed HP. What happened? PES joined a5oc as a site sponsor and had me banned and had those posts deleted as their first order of bought business. The site owners obliged, and PES went on to sell loads of kits to people on that forum and this one incidentally. Sadly. My car with just an exhaust is as quick as any PES M90 supercharged S4/RS4/S5. Does that sound right? Nope. But that's PES for you.

Well, a few weeks ago someone with an S5 bought a PES supercharger kit. Paid in full...but unfortunately after 3 weeks hadn't heard back from PES (who were very supportive and in touch the whole way leading up to payment). The customer called PES the other day, and guess what...phone disconnected. Looks like they've gone bust and the customer is screwed. But those were some pretty dyno sheets. Hopefully nobody on here recently sent them any money.

[Mr Footlong]

Thanks for the info, I had gleaned that the PES kits were guff but had no idea about the above. Sorry to hear that chap lost his cash but if PES are gone, bonus I say.

[sakimano]

Thanks for the info, I had gleaned that the PES kits were guff but had no idea about the above. Sorry to hear that chap lost his cash but if PES are gone, bonus I say.

Hopefully he gets a protection refund from his credit card company. There are a couple of people asking behind the scenes about PES.


Here's their info...I just called those two numbers and they're both disconnected.



PES - Performance Engine Software, LLC
304 Camars Drive
Warminster, PA 18974
[T] 215-675-6149
[F] 267-597-3828



The funniest part is I am 'an idiot' for suggesting you guys demand more and seek actual performance proof from performance parts makers. Funny how that is...people are paying thousands (10,000+ in some cases) to companies for products with no proof, and I'm villified for suggesting what protected us in the North American market.

[S4Player]

Thanks for the info, I had gleaned that the PES kits were guff but had no idea about the above. Sorry to hear that chap lost his cash but if PES are gone, bonus I say.

I know of a second hand tts kit for sale [THUMBS UP SIGN]

[VARSITY]

Saki,

There were no games, I just wanted to know who you where shaming and why.

You did call 'us' idiots, more than once.

However, just applying your theory to PES only leaves a big hole in your original argument.

Please don't bother replying, or adding for my sake. Simply bored now.

Best wishes.

[sakimano]

Saki,

There were no games, I just wanted to know who you where shaming and why.

You did call 'us' idiots, more than once.

However, just applying your theory to PES only leaves a big hole in your original argument.

Please don't bother replying, or adding for my sake. Simply bored now.

Best wishes.

Pes is one good example. There are plenty of these conpanies. If you truly care, phone me. Bumbum can hwlp you with the dialing code. But as I said, I don't reckon you truly do care. You were just playing games and trying to jump in the ol gangbang.

Now. Show me where I called you all idiots. Put up or shut up.

[VARSITY]

The customers stood up once people realised they were being ripped off.

I have seen some ripples on here about tuners who are full of it and not delivering on claims. For the most part though the market's pretty passive and content to get ass-raped.
99% of this forum uses MRC, how are we getting scammed? You're a fucken idiot. Go away.
And you're an ]diot if you believe that.

[/u]
Which would lead me to believing, that you disagree with the 99% issue, therefore consider 'us' as idiots?

As a thought, keeping this on track (no pun intended) why don't manufacturers quote 1/4 mile or other times from the 'strip'?

I took Audi to the court steps over my B7 RS4 some years ago and won, or at least they gave in. This was when I had figured out there was a problem with the carbon build up and the power quoted and actually delivered. My case was built on information gained from dyno results, not drag strip info.

It is certainly something you can do with power delivery, tuning, by delivering power in different ways for different days. By tuning a car for the strip wouldn't be good for everyday or for the track. The same with wheels/tyres and gearing.

If the dyno can be used as a benchmark for the increase and gains whilst tuning, what is wrong with that?

I am not trying to belittle you, but your arguments are angry anti statements for the sake of it.

[bam_bam]

This.

If the dyno can be used as a benchmark for the increase and gains whilst tuning, what is wrong with that?

It has been a very good tuning tool for MRC.