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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by GlynRS2 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:58 pm

EU law states that this can be done by any independant garage as long as they are following the recomended procedure and using the correct part without affecting warranty.
Service time is quoted is around 1 hour, so should be paying around £300-£350 including parts.
ZF even provide the instructions for the service: how to change oil
Hardly rocket science
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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by gsc » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:26 pm

GlynRS2 wrote:For those who may want to service their gearbox, this is what is recomended by ZF:

ZF Service Information ZF 8HP auto transmission link

The ZF part number for the service kit for the RS6 is 1087.298.369 including the oil (or 1087.298.368 without the oil), which can be purchased here

I am planning to change the oil in my transmission at 60,000km, which is about 38,000 miles. As certainly it has had some "sporty driving" :thumb:
Pretty sure it is 100k km so just over 60k miles rather than 60k km for the 8HP55


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Gearbox oil...

Post by gsc » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:28 pm

gsc wrote:
GlynRS2 wrote:For those who may want to service their gearbox, this is what is recomended by ZF:

ZF Service Information ZF 8HP auto transmission link

The ZF part number for the service kit for the RS6 is 1087.298.369 including the oil (or 1087.298.368 without the oil), which can be purchased here

I am planning to change the oil in my transmission at 60,000km, which is about 38,000 miles. As certainly it has had some "sporty driving" :thumb:
Pretty sure it is 100k km so just over 60k miles rather than 60k km for the 8HP55.

It takes a bit over an hour unless someone has done one before as you have to give the fill time to settle, test it and then top up.

Total cost for me was just over £400 all done


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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by rtd » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:29 pm

60k miles for UK cars according to ZF


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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by GlynRS2 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:14 am

I do understand that ZF recommend 80,000 - 100,000km or maximum of 8 years, but that is for standard use which could be in a much lower output setting. Reading on some of the forums of other manufacturers of high performance cars that use the 8HP gearbox many choose to reduce this to 60,000 - 80,000km. Personally I would rather do some relatively cheap preventative maintenance rather than risk any undue wear to what is a very expensive item to repair/replace if something were to go wrong. Of course what others choose to do with their cars is entirely up to them.
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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Mr Footlong » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:19 am

Sorry (not sorry), but ANYONE wanting to listen Audi's "sealed for life" guff is retarded. Take it from the various old timers on here including me, load of crap. Service your box good and thoroughly and it will help it to keep taking a pounding.

Bought my C7 on Saturday at 48k miles, gearbox service booked on Monday morning. Originally MRC were doing it for me at the same time as a stage 1 tune, but I had to go to Camberley Audi for some bits yesterday. They tried the "sealed for life" line with me and that Audi tell them "don't touch unless problem", but I had none of it. They took me through to parts, broke down the job and including everything, was in the £800-ish range and had no problem doing it in the end as I had half a clue what I was talking about and called them on it.

I actually ended up having RD Garage Services in Shepperton doing it (VAG specialist - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rd+garage+services), as they have already looked after this car very well for the previous owner, were stupidly honest and cheap assessing problems on another car I took to them on Saturday and did that without knowing I had this car. £834 for the full works gearbox service and the previous owner ordered in a set of resonator delete pipes for the Milltek system fitted, would be rude not to try those. Gearbox and pipes being done tomorrow :D.

I was perfectly happy for MRC to do it as they have done a few of mine before, but less waiting around for wife when she goes up there for the remap and the new guys I feel have earned my trust and deserve some business.

Waffle over.
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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Mr Footlong » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:07 am

Got car back yesterday. Garage said I made the right call, as they said the fluid was more tired than they were expecting to see on a 48K box. Magnetic plug(s?) had a fair bit of swarf on it, but nothing alarming.

If in any doubt, get it done.
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"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm

Gone:
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12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by gsc » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:25 am

Mr Footlong wrote:Got car back yesterday. Garage said I made the right call, as they said the fluid was more tired than they were expecting to see on a 48K box. Magnetic plug(s?) had a fair bit of swarf on it, but nothing alarming.

If in any doubt, get it done.
Agreed, wish I had kept the pictures of mine but the magnetic plugs were covered in sludge and the oil black. It is £400 well spent doing it, may go for a change every 40k miles going forward


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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Mr Footlong » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:42 am

Only £400? Was the sump not dropped for that price or did you do the service yourself?
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"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm

Gone:
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats, uprated fuel pumps, race plugs, 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Gearbox oil...

Post by gsc » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:50 am

Yes it was, OE ZF kit from Germany at about £60 which included new gasket and sump, £180 for fluid and the rest labour. Kit is on ebay


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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Tadass910 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:36 pm

Everyone seems to be very clever in this forum, clever than Audi technician? Maybe in uk you have weird Audi dealers, here in eu we trust our Audi dealers and if they say it’s no need to change oil in a transmission then we trust moreover if it was stated not by only one eu dealer)

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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Mr Footlong » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm

Tadass910 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:36 pm
Everyone seems to be very clever in this forum, clever than Audi technician? Maybe in uk you have weird Audi dealers, here in eu we trust our Audi dealers and if they say it’s no need to change oil in a transmission then we trust moreover if it was stated not by only one eu dealer)
Seriously????? How many Automatics have you had in your life? How many of them were high-powered? Do you think that just because the gearbox fluid isn't exposed to the internal combustion process, that it somehow stays in perfect nick and things like clutch pack wear and swarf from general "wear & tear" are are all lies and we are all living in our own little fantasy worlds?

Oh dear...
Current:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm

Gone:
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats, uprated fuel pumps, race plugs, 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Tadass910 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:35 pm

Mr Footlong wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm
Tadass910 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:36 pm
Everyone seems to be very clever in this forum, clever than Audi technician? Maybe in uk you have weird Audi dealers, here in eu we trust our Audi dealers and if they say it’s no need to change oil in a transmission then we trust moreover if it was stated not by only one eu dealer)
Seriously????? How many Automatics have you had in your life? How many of them were high-powered? Do you think that just because the gearbox fluid isn't exposed to the internal combustion process, that it somehow stays in perfect nick and things like clutch pack wear and swarf from general "wear & tear" are are all lies and we are all living in our own little fantasy worlds?

Oh dear...
Are you some kind a ZF Tecnician to coment? No one from ZF stated officially that you certainly need change oil for Rs6

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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by Mr Footlong » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:45 pm

Guys (and gheys), I'm out.
Current:

"Brutus"- C5 RS6 Avant - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats - Wagner ICs - PSS9 - H&R ARBs - OZ Superturismo LM - C6 Custom brakes - HD RNS-E - Various other bits - 555PS/832Nm

Gone:
"Taz"- C7 RS6 - MRC stage 2 - Milltek non-res + 100 cell cats, uprated fuel pumps, race plugs, 745PS/1095Nm
12' Cayenne Turbo, B7 RS4, S3, Cupra R, XJR, EVO VII, STI8,5,2&WRX, 106 GTI&XSI, other crap.

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Re: Gearbox oil...

Post by chunky79 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:51 pm

Tadass910 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:35 pm
Mr Footlong wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm
Tadass910 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:36 pm
Everyone seems to be very clever in this forum, clever than Audi technician? Maybe in uk you have weird Audi dealers, here in eu we trust our Audi dealers and if they say it’s no need to change oil in a transmission then we trust moreover if it was stated not by only one eu dealer)
Seriously????? How many Automatics have you had in your life? How many of them were high-powered? Do you think that just because the gearbox fluid isn't exposed to the internal combustion process, that it somehow stays in perfect nick and things like clutch pack wear and swarf from general "wear & tear" are are all lies and we are all living in our own little fantasy worlds?

Oh dear...
Are you some kind a ZF Tecnician to coment? No one from ZF stated officially that you certainly need change oil for Rs6
Why do ZF sell a service kit for their boxes then?
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