Upgraded suspension for performance rather than stance

Post by **RS61** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:37 am

Hi everyone,

I've had my C7 RS6 for three years now, MTM 730bhp on the dyno, and have always loved it - however I just spent three months driving a Huracan, and after selling it the RS6 just feels like a boat now. The acceleration is roughly the same, but as soon as you floor it and have to turn, it rolls around and you can just tell that it's far too high and far too soft. I've got the DRC steel springs, but it's still not quite right.

Has anyone had success making it lower and firmer so that it actually goes where you expect it to when the turbos kick in?

Post by **robf** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:39 am

I actually have no problem with the way the RS6 handles. I have recently fitted H&R coilovers and, although early days, it has revealed that - actually - the DRC setup is pretty good. Because each corner talks to each other, it's managing the car. With the coilovers, it's not been a night and day difference because, whilst roll is reduced a bit, it still feels like a big car!

Lets remember, drivers better than us have rated the C7 pretty highly. It's even faired better on track than expected. For me, the differential plays a big part as you can really feel it tighten the angle of the car as you carry speed into the corner. For me, the faster you go, the better it feels from that respect.

The bit i find annoying is after that initial turn in it doesn't neccessary 'settle'. You then have to put in another steering input that makes me feel like a clumsy driver. This has definetly improved with the H&Rs, but i'd like to fit some beefier roll bars (if they were available). Overall though, i tend to like working with a cars characteristics and seeing what i can get out of them. I'm afraid i'm a stance person - i just wanted it to look better

Post by **ollys** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:51 am

I don't normally like black cars - but yours is

Post by **PSB1** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:19 am

robf wrote:I actually have no problem with the way the RS6 handles. I have recently fitted H&R coilovers and, although early days, it has revealed that - actually - the DRC setup is pretty good. Because each corner talks to each other, it's managing the car. With the coilovers, it's not been a night and day difference because, whilst roll is reduced a bit, it still feels like a big car!

Lets remember, drivers better than us have rated the C7 pretty highly. It's even faired better on track than expected. For me, the differential plays a big part as you can really feel it tighten the angle of the car as you carry speed into the corner. For me, the faster you go, the better it feels from that respect.

The bit i find annoying is after that initial turn in it doesn't neccessary 'settle'. You then have to put in another steering input that makes me feel like a clumsy driver. This has definetly improved with the H&Rs, but i'd like to fit some beefier roll bars (if they were available). Overall though, i tend to like working with a cars characteristics and seeing what i can get out of them. I'm afraid i'm a stance person - i just wanted it to look better

Jesus Christ - look at that!

Post by **RS61** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:17 pm

1. Wow. Seriously.

2. Exactly! I actually think it's the dodgy dynamic steering too. My Huracan was the spyder, which had what was referred to as gen 2 dynamic steering. And it was truly perfect - you turn the wheel, the car goes exactly where you want it. With the RS6 you firstly get a bunch of roll, but secondly you also need to correct after you turn as if you didn't quite get it right the first time. Exactly as you describe. And if heaven forbid you happen to floor it at the same time, e.g. overtaking, well it's just sheer luck if it goes in the right direction. It's almost a battle with the steering wheel to keep it from flying off a straight road.

So no luck with the coilovers. Fair enough, thank you, I was tempted by the KW adjustable kit, but if it doesn't solve the overall roll / control issues then I think I'll save the money for the moment. Don't get me wrong - love the car, and it is indeed amazing. It's just hard to handle the roll after driving a purpose-built car. I imagine it's the same when you jump out of your GT3 and into it..

Post by **PSB1** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:23 pm

GTFOOMW

Post by **Covkiller** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:14 pm

Speak to Centregravity, they really know their stuff. Chris (the owner) setup my RS4 up perfectly on my KW v3's and HR ARB's. Lowering and corner weighted too.

Post by **MikeFish** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:31 pm

My lowering springs didn't make much difference but after I had the alignment adjusted it made a whole load of difference. It still rolls too much but turn in is massively improved.
I think stiffer anti roll bars will sort that out. An american company does them for the A6/A7/RS7 so guessing it will fit the RS6 too (actually, I think their website states RS6 too).
They also do a great looking chassis stiffener (replaces the OEM one but is stiffer and lighter) but unfortunately it doesn't fit RHD cars.

Post by **MikeFish** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:34 pm

Rob, as cov has stated, now you have fully adjustable suspension (except for lack of front camber adjustment) centre gravity could get it set up exactly as you like it. Tjey obviously can't make it feel like a lightweight track car but they'll get it handling much better.

Post by **RS6chris!** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:28 pm

My old Panamera Turbo really shows the RS6 up for what it is in the handling stakes....wobbly.

A C7 that has the power and speed with the handling of a Panny Turbo?....believe me that WOULD be a perfect car.

Post by **Covkiller** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:30 pm

Mike, grace us with a photo of your RS6.
May the lowered be with you my son !

Post by **doodlebug** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:30 pm

New Panamera Turbo then! Looks epic. Comes with PDK, proper launch, 3.6 to 62. And turbo S yet to come.

Post by **RS6chris!** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:36 pm

doodlebug wrote:New Panamera Turbo then! Looks epic. Comes with PDK, proper launch, 3.6 to 62. And turbo S yet to come.

Seen it doodle

Turbo looks awesome to be fair

Tech a real step forward and subtle changes to body style makes it look like it should have done!

Arse end looks fab

I believe it will have the C7 V8 too??....with launch that will be quick, although don't know about box?

Post by **RS6chris!** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:40 pm

Post by **doodlebug** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:43 pm

It's VAG V8, but I don't think it's the same engine as in RS6. Displacement very slightly different.

Box is 8 speed double clutch, must be all new.

If I hadn't fallen for TTS this would be up there. Launch in Sept....could yet be tickled.

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