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Just wondering if anybody sold there 6 to buy a nissan gtr or the other way round...sold my rs4 beginning of year and fully intended to be staying in the audi mix with a rs6 next but really swaying towards a gtr now saying as i bought a landrover and practicality has gone out the window...the landrover is fab for dog etc so decided to keep it, so really the avant i dont really need now so been surfing you tube etc etc about gtr,s and im swaying dont know if its a good or bad thing...help needed guys
Cheers jay

There's a few ex gtr owners on here. S4player came from a supercharged B7. Phil T came from a B5 RS4. Loads of others too but can't recall them all.

As awesome and fast as the GTR may be...they just leave me cold...

I'm not a badge snob but the image also puts me off.

Coming from a man who drives a tarted up Grey A6!!!...

ive just sold my gtr and bought an RS6 - depends what you want from a car i suppose.

I was on my second GTR and had this one since new. Was also running an A45 as the gtr isnt the most practicle of cars. decided to get rid of both as the RS6 ticks the boxes of both. Practical and quick.

Thats why im swaying towards a gtr coz being practical isnt a issue anymore...just need something to tear up the tarmac every weekend

not much in it either way id say.

I sold my 750-800bhp GTR and moved to the C7 RS6.

GTR was too extreme for me and not an everyday car, but as a toy it was fantastic. I only want one car (so it must do everything) and the GTR was not really the kind of car to have comfy quiet days away that maybe included Tesco or home-based shopping along the way, but as a full on toy just to take out and play with it was a crazy crazy car. I kind of likened it to a Friday car. On a Monday driving it to work it was a bit annoying, being so hard, noisy, tram lines everywhere but as a Friday car coming home it was a blast, huge fun and excitement massive grin on your face.

RS6 gone now as well though as not enough fun for me. Its a great car out of the box, very fast, comfy, quiet, lovely to drive but just was not for me. if you want to buy a car that is 90% great with nothing to do other than turn the key and go the C7 RS6 is for you. if you want something that maybe is not quiet so good and needs a bit of fettling then maybe not so much. I am in the second camp.

Paulm wrote:I sold my 750-800bhp GTR and moved to the C7 RS6.

GTR was too extreme for me and not an everyday car, but as a toy it was fantastic. I only want one car (so it must do everything) and the GTR was not really the kind of car to have comfy quiet days away that maybe included Tesco or home-based shopping along the way, but as a full on toy just to take out and play with it was a crazy crazy car. I kind of likened it to a Friday car. On a Monday driving it to work it was a bit annoying, being so hard, noisy, tram lines everywhere but as a Friday car coming home it was a blast, huge fun and excitement massive grin on your face.

RS6 gone now as well though as not enough fun for me. Its a great car out of the box, very fast, comfy, quiet, lovely to drive but just was not for me. if you want to buy a car that is 90% great with nothing to do other than turn the key and go the C7 RS6 is for you. if you want something that maybe is not quiet so good and needs a bit of fettling then maybe not so much. I am in the second camp.

Looks like confusion to me, that's a really polar statement - you had the GTR which was too much, and the RS6 wasn't enough. I wouldn't know where to go from that drama! The RS6 is a family estate, the GTR is a track weapon.

Fair play, I'm up in Aberdeen every week at the moment - what have you moved to? Week before last I had time to visit the dealers, massive amounts of stock! Mercedes had some lovely things in, useless for anything but the dry returned by people who had gone bonkers about depreciation and market volatility. Audi - the same, lots of RS's/R8's sat there. Heck Porsche even had a GT3 RS and GT4 sat in the shop.

The Oil Price has delayed my RS6 only slightly, and 90% there is subjective. For now I have the Ferrari Golf which I would describe as fettling, and I do sit in that camp on many days - soon enough the Ferrari Golf Plus is going in for an Audi 3.2 DSG Quattro (plus turbo) transplant, and all the racing gear underneath. That's a fettler which will be good to drive on limited days of the week, at extreme pace. (Just FYI we're looking for 550BHp, in a beaten up Golf!)

The RS6 which believe me is imminent (awaiting a deal in Aberdeen funnily) is 100% for the following use case:

I want to have a family with me whilst I enjoy my car and shift big stuff, and not really care. Example I want to go for Christmas to the family, and in a car that I enjoy. Or I want to go across Europe to some location on a driving holiday with the family. And reliably.

If I'd no family it would be a 911 Turbo to do the same job. If I wanted extreme car fun it would be a McLaren / GT3 / Fezza all day long. If I was even richer I'd be buying a Panamera Shooting brake Turbo S or a Ferrari FF - Or GTthingyLusso.

I agree, if I didn't have a family and a dog to cart around I would have Porsche. If I had more money I would have both. But as I don't, the 6 is as close as you can get to a car that does everything.

vestax32 wrote:I agree, if I didn't have a family and a dog to cart around I would have Porsche. If I had more money I would have both. But as I don't, the 6 is as close as you can get to a car that does everything.

Spot on.

boff wrote:

vestax32 wrote:I agree, if I didn't have a family and a dog to cart around I would have Porsche. If I had more money I would have both. But as I don't, the 6 is as close as you can get to a car that does everything.

Spot on.

and it will tow a caravan............

boff wrote:

Paulm wrote:I sold my 750-800bhp GTR and moved to the C7 RS6.

GTR was too extreme for me and not an everyday car, but as a toy it was fantastic. I only want one car (so it must do everything) and the GTR was not really the kind of car to have comfy quiet days away that maybe included Tesco or home-based shopping along the way, but as a full on toy just to take out and play with it was a crazy crazy car. I kind of likened it to a Friday car. On a Monday driving it to work it was a bit annoying, being so hard, noisy, tram lines everywhere but as a Friday car coming home it was a blast, huge fun and excitement massive grin on your face.

RS6 gone now as well though as not enough fun for me. Its a great car out of the box, very fast, comfy, quiet, lovely to drive but just was not for me. if you want to buy a car that is 90% great with nothing to do other than turn the key and go the C7 RS6 is for you. if you want something that maybe is not quiet so good and needs a bit of fettling then maybe not so much. I am in the second camp.

Looks like confusion to me, that's a really polar statement - you had the GTR which was too much, and the RS6 wasn't enough. I wouldn't know where to go from that drama! The RS6 is a family estate, the GTR is a track weapon.

Fair play, I'm up in Aberdeen every week at the moment - what have you moved to? Week before last I had time to visit the dealers, massive amounts of stock! Mercedes had some lovely things in, useless for anything but the dry returned by people who had gone bonkers about depreciation and market volatility. Audi - the same, lots of RS's/R8's sat there. Heck Porsche even had a GT3 RS and GT4 sat in the shop.

The Oil Price has delayed my RS6 only slightly, and 90% there is subjective. For now I have the Ferrari Golf which I would describe as fettling, and I do sit in that camp on many days - soon enough the Ferrari Golf Plus is going in for an Audi 3.2 DSG Quattro (plus turbo) transplant, and all the racing gear underneath. That's a fettler which will be good to drive on limited days of the week, at extreme pace. (Just FYI we're looking for 550BHp, in a beaten up Golf!)

The RS6 which believe me is imminent (awaiting a deal in Aberdeen funnily) is 100% for the following use case:

I want to have a family with me whilst I enjoy my car and shift big stuff, and not really care. Example I want to go for Christmas to the family, and in a car that I enjoy. Or I want to go across Europe to some location on a driving holiday with the family. And reliably.

If I'd no family it would be a 911 Turbo to do the same job. If I wanted extreme car fun it would be a McLaren / GT3 / Fezza all day long. If I was even richer I'd be buying a Panamera Shooting brake Turbo S or a Ferrari FF - Or GTthingyLusso.

Confused I am not, polar statement because they are polar cars you even said it yourself "Track car and family estate". If you go drive them both you will see, on saying that driving them is not enough you would have to live with them for a while to understand. They are miles apart, 2 totally different cars both with compromises. my kids are up so I don't need a huge people carrier like the RS6. I thought the RS6 would be just right but its not.

I have gone for an RS3. on paper (and what I have found so far) a compromise between them both. Easier to live with than the GTR, although not as refined as the C7 but loads of fun and plenty I can do to it. it needs some work to get it to where I will be happy but that's all part of the fun. I don't buy a car just to turn the key and go, I need something I can play with.

What I want is simple.

Practical
Ease of use every day, wife shopping etc
understated
4 wheel drive
Turbo
over 20 mpg on a run
Tow my Go Karts
Quiet enough to have a relaxed conversation
Comfy enough to enjoy a relaxed cruise on our rubbish roads
Fun on the road when I want to play
and fast as hell just because!!

how hard can that be

I was going to wait until the new RS4 was released (ticks all the boxes above??) but life is too short so lets play with the RS3 for a while and see whats what.

yeah I was in Audi Aberdeen the other day 6 RS6's in there I am sure you will be able to get a good deal!!

A GTR back in 2012/2013, yes, I could see the appeal. However, we are half way through 2016 and the R35 is well past its sell by date.

The R35 debuted in 2007, released to the JDM market in 2008 and officially in the UK early 09 (disregarding the 08 JDM imports). The age and design of the car is therefore coming up for 10yrs old. The tech is old, the design is old, the looks are old, everything is old.

The R35 is not a great track car no matter what the mags say, its the best part of 1800kg and any car at that weight is going to be expensive to track, the R35 is no different. Tyres, discs, pads and oils every 2-3 track days if driven properly, this makes it a no-go for me as a track day car. Buy something at around 12-1300kg if you want fun around the track.

The RS6 is just as quick as the GTR in a straight like for like. Quicker than the earlier cars for sure and a match for the later 530/550 cars. Tuning wise, the R35 maxes at around 630hp, the RS6 maxes at around 750hp on standard engine hardware. The R35 does not do its claimed figures, the RS6 is conservative and betters its numbers. You'll not see a standard R35 bought from the showroom hitting Nissan's claimed 2.7 60 or 7:20 ring lap times. Nissan manipulating the press, never

However, there is no denying they are great cars, they can go around the track quickly, they can accelerate quickly and the aftermarket tuning market options to make them monsters is huge. They hold their value well, they have a good road presence and there is huge respect for the car throughout the motoring community.

Back to my original point though, 2017 is fast approaching, 2007 is when the R35 was initially released, I can't see past that. Times have moved on, technology has moved on, cars have moved on, there's no question, the R35 is old skool now. If this does not bother you, then your money, go for it. If it's a fun fast track car you are after though, the R35 is the wrong choice, buy a Porsche

Agree with above post save for a fast fun track car then is a Caterham 7.

Yeah but the Op is not asking about track etc

"Just wondering if anybody sold there 6 to buy a nissan gtr or the other way round"

I have and I gave my thoughts

PS they hold their value like nothing I have even owned. I had mine a year I sent a few quid putting bigger turbos on it etc and sold it for more then I paid. Overall I lost maybe £2k that's including the extra I spent on it. Buy it if you don't like it sell it and lose more or less nothing