RS6 C7 Brake Judder!

[HDPete]

Does this problem exist on facelift 2016 cars?

[zzz]

Long overdue update.

After a significant battle with my dealer (I drove it incorrectly, I must have a weird braking technique, I've been sitting on hot breaks etc) ... They had the car just over a week, apparently the managers of each cost centre were fighting with each other on who was going to pick up the tab The service department agreed there was a problem (warped front nearside) but as it was a "consumable part" the cost should be assigned to sales. Internal politics that I shouldn't have had to deal with.

The problem appeared a 2k miles, went away a bit then got so bad by 4k that I thought the vibration would do further damage to the car (I only drove 200 miles home & straight to audi at that point).

Anyway, new pads & disks on the front was the outcome so asides the delay in them getting their finger out it was a good outcome. I hope it doesn't happen again.

[zebede]

I've just had a similar problem, took car into dealer Tuesday, the brakes have apparently not been allowed to cool and have resultant cracking to the centre of the discs.
Firstly I do drive quick, but never thrashing it as I'd end up dead.
Secondly I don't recall the manual telling me I should cool the brakes prior to parking.

I firmly believe I should be able to stand my 96k car on its nose as the brakes should be up to the job regardless. I should then be able to park go shopping whatever without waiting for the brakes to cool down!

They have replaced the discs only this time only for this issue and won't be replacing in the future if it happens again.

I have requested a meeting with service and sales when I collect the car. If the brakes aren't up to the job then surely they're not fit for purpose?
For the record I don't do track days or anything similar but do fast driving in Europe often.

[Ian_C]

I've just had a similar problem, took car into dealer Tuesday, the brakes have apparently not been allowed to cool and have resultant cracking to the centre of the discs.
Firstly I do drive quick, but never thrashing it as I'd end up dead.
Secondly I don't recall the manual telling me I should cool the brakes prior to parking.

I firmly believe I should be able to stand my 96k car on its nose as the brakes should be up to the job regardless. I should then be able to park go shopping whatever without waiting for the brakes to cool down!

They have replaced the discs only this time only for this issue and won't be replacing in the future if it happens again.

I have requested a meeting with service and sales when I collect the car. If the brakes aren't up to the job then surely they're not fit for purpose?
For the record I don't do track days or anything similar but do fast driving in Europe often

For a minute, I thought you were going to say the dealer was going to try and wriggle out of it by saying the speed limit was 70 mph in the UK, and that you must have gone over that to damage them.

Pathetic isn't it - these kind of cars cannot be having these issues.

[doodlebug]

Unfortunately this sort of crapola is all too common with the brand now.

You receive zero preferential treatment for owning an RS or R8 product, same rules of engagement apply across the board, and that includes AUK.

As Mr Bannatyne says, 'I'm out'.

[Markp]

Does this problem exist on facelift 2016 cars?

10,000 miles on my 16 facelift and brakes are perfect.

[RS6chris!]

Does this problem exist on facelift 2016 cars?

10,000 miles on my 16 facelift and brakes are perfect.

It will do

Don't believe the hype Audis are "premium" and "reliable".


Sometimes wonder why I'm a fanboy...

[Markp]

Does this problem exist on facelift 2016 cars?

10,000 miles on my 16 facelift and brakes are perfect.

It will do

Don't believe the hype Audis are "premium" and "reliable".


Sometimes wonder why I'm a fanboy...

Mine does seem both reliable and premium. But then I drive a 2CV as well so warped perception

[zebede]

Well I picked the car up today, the discs have been changed front and rear, had a long chat with both the service advisor and the service manager, I have been advised that I should be allowing the brakes to cool prior to parking. Advice is from technical not the dealer. I have pointed out that this is complete b*llocks as how would I know the brakes are hot for a start, what do they expect me to do.

On another note they have replaced the suspension top mount to cure a bad rattle - it's still there and to top it off they have ripped my seat somehow whilst in there. Comedy of errors.

[Markp]

Well I picked the car up today, the discs have been changed front and rear, had a long chat with both the service advisor and the service manager, I have been advised that I should be allowing the brakes to cool prior to parking. Advice is from technical not the dealer. I have pointed out that this is complete b*llocks as how would I know the brakes are hot for a start, what do they expect me to do.

On another note they have replaced the suspension top mount to cure a bad rattle - it's still there and to top it off they have ripped my seat somehow whilst in there. Comedy of errors.

To be fair if you come to an abrupt halt after a long brake - eg at roundabout or traffic lights - and sit with your foot on the pedal you risk pad transfer and vibration. Same with all fast cars. I creep or sit in neutral if that happens after I have been going for it. These are heavy fast cars. But parking shouldn't be an issue unless you are the fastest parker in town

[Ian_C]

Well I picked the car up today, the discs have been changed front and rear, had a long chat with both the service advisor and the service manager, I have been advised that I should be allowing the brakes to cool prior to parking. Advice is from technical not the dealer. I have pointed out that this is complete b*llocks as how would I know the brakes are hot for a start, what do they expect me to do.

On another note they have replaced the suspension top mount to cure a bad rattle - it's still there and to top it off they have ripped my seat somehow whilst in there. Comedy of errors.

Ripped the leather in the drivers seat? WTF?

[zzz]

Well I picked the car up today, the discs have been changed front and rear, had a long chat with both the service advisor and the service manager, I have been advised that I should be allowing the brakes to cool prior to parking. Advice is from technical not the dealer. I have pointed out that this is complete b*llocks as how would I know the brakes are hot for a start, what do they expect me to do.

On another note they have replaced the suspension top mount to cure a bad rattle - it's still there and to top it off they have ripped my seat somehow whilst in there. Comedy of errors.

To be fair if you come to an abrupt halt after a long brake - eg at roundabout or traffic lights - and sit with your foot on the pedal you risk pad transfer and vibration. Same with all fast cars. I creep or sit in neutral if that happens after I have been going for it. These are heavy fast cars. But parking shouldn't be an issue unless you are the fastest parker in town

I normally use park at the lights on an incline, it disengages the brakes & activates stop start.

[zebede]

Well I picked the car up today, the discs have been changed front and rear, had a long chat with both the service advisor and the service manager, I have been advised that I should be allowing the brakes to cool prior to parking. Advice is from technical not the dealer. I have pointed out that this is complete b*llocks as how would I know the brakes are hot for a start, what do they expect me to do.

On another note they have replaced the suspension top mount to cure a bad rattle - it's still there and to top it off they have ripped my seat somehow whilst in there. Comedy of errors.

Ripped the leather in the drivers seat? WTF?

Yep ripped the drivers seat, not sure how but they are replacing the seat cover
They claim it will definitely match

[Bit_evl]

I took my RS6PE into Tetbury to finalise a glitch they found in PDI this week. Collected in March and 5500 miles on the clock. I have also suffered from the brake vibration as well in the last 1000 miles and asked them to look at it. They said that they had put the car on the MOT test and the vibration was just over the MOT guidance. I did not push them but they said that AUDI had agreed to replace the front discs. I just needed to sort a time. Great attitude and service.

I have been thinking through the possible cause and I suspect it is down to weight, power and autobox. I don't cane mine, I have not tracked it. I figure that if you use it well then the brakes will heat up as you drag 2000kgs down to a halt, the power means the autobox causes wild creep unless you hold it on the brakes so at every junction you sit hard on the brakes (with the stop-start as well) causing the heat to be trapped on the disc/pad. I have never warped a set of discs on any car in my life. I had the AMG E63S for 22k miles in two years and never even had the pads changed. I had a 550+ Bhp Skyline GTR33V and got to 108000 with one set of front discs at 80,000.

The only thing I can think of this is the challenge of holding it on the brakes at junctions, would ceramics make any difference on this situation ?

[andywaddy]

I took my RS6PE into Tetbury to finalise a glitch they found in PDI this week. Collected in March and 5500 miles on the clock. I have also suffered from the brake vibration as well in the last 1000 miles and asked them to look at it. They said that they had put the car on the MOT test and the vibration was just over the MOT guidance. I did not push them but they said that AUDI had agreed to replace the front discs. I just needed to sort a time. Great attitude and service.

I have been thinking through the possible cause and I suspect it is down to weight, power and autobox. I don't cane mine, I have not tracked it. I figure that if you use it well then the brakes will heat up as you drag 2000kgs down to a halt, the power means the autobox causes wild creep unless you hold it on the brakes so at every junction you sit hard on the brakes (with the stop-start as well) causing the heat to be trapped on the disc/pad. I have never warped a set of discs on any car in my life. I had the AMG E63S for 22k miles in two years and never even had the pads changed. I had a 550+ Bhp Skyline GTR33V and got to 108000 with one set of front discs at 80,000.

The only thing I can think of this is the challenge of holding it on the brakes at junctions, would ceramics make any difference on this situation ?

I think most people tend to either knock it into neutral if on a flat or Park if on a gradient to try and avoid sitting on the brakes.