Small Review

4.0 V8 40v biturbo TFSI - 553 bhp
4.0 V8 40v biturbo TFSI - 597 bhp (Performance)
User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:04 pm

so had the first wee blast some interesting findings

compared to my last few cars

RS6 V10, lovely car. big and heavy when throwing it around showed its weight, understeer, mental MPG
911 turbo. hard, noisy, uncomfy, slow and way too much understeer
F10 M5, comfy, quiet, lovely place to be, fantastic engine and gearbox, not enough rear grip, not chuckable just wanted to kill you all the time. Fine for fun but got tiresome.

C7 RS6 Hmmmmmm,

one thing I really should have spec'd is surround view. with the flared arches you have no idea where the wheels are in relation to the kerb. Big mistake there.

Not sure how Audi could make it any better other that shedding a few 100kgs. Now Audi have addressed the wind noise it is very quiet and a nice place to be, only downside with the extra sound proofing you cant hear the engine or exhaust. I want to keep driving it and that has not happened for a long time
Great engine, does die off at the red line which is annoying.
cant fault the gearbox very smooth and undetectable changes for the most part
Air suspension. on comfort it just wafts along, on dynamic its solid. Where I live its very poor A roads and my god it is hard, could not be any firmer or it would get fidgety and hard to control.

I did find though, on comfort and you nail it to pass a car the rear squidges around, feels like its trying to go side ways, even the wife commented on the same thing and she is not a quick driver. Its a bit disconcerting. Auto is probable the best setting for every day use

So, how did they get it to handle so well given its weight. The handling is absolutely fantastic. Its almost too good for the weight, I found although it went where I put it, if I wanted to change position mid corner it felt like it was trying to rip the tyres off the wheels as the body wanted to go straight on and the wheels wanted to turn. Very hard feeling to describe. it still did what I told it but did not seem to like it. Roads are slippy up here and flaming hell it just hangs on. Really impressed. It would destroy the M5 and in slippy conditions would be right on the RS of the GTR (again big have car though).

Following on from the above, IT WONT STOP. again it is so capable trying to stop it can be interesting, you end up going way faster than you realise then slowing to where you want be is interesting. I had no brake fade but felt like I need more power to stop it.

Cool feature, normal braking the rear lights stay on(as normal), harder more focussed braking the rear bar flashed. looks cool lol

MPG 25.8 well impressed

blasting around 1/2 a tank in about 10 mins lol

really cant fault it so far (other than the squidgy bit) be interesting to see how it handles in the dry and how it will react to more power
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

kmpowell
5th Gear
Posts: 1301
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:01 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by kmpowell » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:07 pm

From your comments, can I assume you've not got DRC and it's on the standard Air?

Is there any part of you that wishes you'd ticked the DRC box?
'15 B8 RS4 - SOLD

doodlebug
Cruising
Posts: 5833
Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:56 am
Location: Somewhere. Maybe.

Re: Small Review

Post by doodlebug » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:09 pm

Interesting comment on the brakes, mine stops on a button, more so than anything else I've driven.

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:26 pm

kmpowell wrote:From your comments, can I assume you've not got DRC and it's on the standard Air?

Is there any part of you that wishes you'd ticked the DRC box?
not driven a C7 DRC but going by my old C6 RS6 DRC, no I am happy with my choice. Comfort is my goal 80% of the time.
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:27 pm

doodlebug wrote:Interesting comment on the brakes, mine stops on a button, more so than anything else I've driven.
Strange. I guess they will get better once fully bedded in
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

User avatar
IanH755
Top Gear
Posts: 2043
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:50 pm
Location: Stoke and Norfolk

Re: Small Review

Post by IanH755 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:48 pm

Squidgy back end - Common complaint on here (big thread about it) and the conclusion was change the tyres (to MPSS ideally) as the Dunlops aren't upto the task. The MPSS aren't a "Audi Recommended" tyre which puts some people off but they're miles better than the Dunlops it's supplied with and a tyre change has cured most of issues that people on here have complained about regarding the rear feeling very loose during overtakes etc (was also talk of an air filled rubber bearing somewhere on the rear which could be filled in with Mastic etc but thats too much of a bodge).
***OLD*** Daytona C5 RS6 Avant - MRC'd - 500HP & 820NM (PistonHeads Link).

***NEW*** Daytona C6 RS6 Avant - MRC'd - 955HP & 1200NM (PistonHeads Link)

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 20282
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:47 pm

Good review. Thanks. :thumbs:

Do you regret, even a little bit, not getting the DRC? I really don't want to have a DRC car again, but I'm worried that the air suspension isn't "sporty" enough. You seem to be saying that's not the case though.

Interesting about the brakes. How do you distinguish "brake fade" and what you described as under-powered braking? In my experience they are pretty much indistinguishable. Or are you saying that even when at correct operating temp they are still not up to the job?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:08 pm

Went out for a blast again this morning and the brakes are way better. I guess having so little miles on the car affected how they performed toasting them yesterday seems to have bedded them in.

For me brake fade is when you are braking like mad and the peddle goes to the floor with little or no effect on stopping. Very scary
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

User avatar
Shoppinit
Cruising
Posts: 20282
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:24 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:12 pm

Paulm wrote: For me brake fade is when you are braking like mad and the peddle goes to the floor with little or no effect on stopping. Very scary
OK. For me that is when the fluid boils. Fade is when they overheat and you have to press much harder to get enough braking.

Thoughts on the DRC?

/maybe you were experiencing green fade with the new pads?
Daytona RS6 C5 Avant. Viper'd, Billies, Waggers, MTM box brain, C6 stoppers, xcarlink, R8 coolant cap (woohoo)
///M3 E46 | XC90 (V8, natch) | Passat GTE | RR Classic V8 flapper
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair."

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:33 pm

Shoppinit wrote:
Paulm wrote: For me brake fade is when you are braking like mad and the peddle goes to the floor with little or no effect on stopping. Very scary
OK. For me that is when the fluid boils. Fade is when they overheat and you have to press much harder to get enough braking.

Thoughts on the DRC?

Yes but as you say both kind of happen at the same time. very hard to say what is happening other than not stopping lol

like I said above. I had DRC in my old C6 RS6 and although it was fine overall it was too hard for the roads around here. Having Air in the C7 is the best of both worlds for me. Amazingly comfy in comfort (for the type of car) but very very capable when in dynamic mode. The wee blast I had this morning confirmed the air can easily go hard enough. Car is solid. I would say in dynamic the car is only fractionally softer than my old GTR in comfort. GTR was too hard and made it very difficult to drive. RS is just right. hopefully will get a run in a DRC C7 to compare but for now I am happy enough.
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

User avatar
W8PMC
Cruising
Posts: 3059
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:18 pm
Location: NW England

Re: Small Review

Post by W8PMC » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:36 pm

Paulm wrote:
It would destroy the M5 and in slippy conditions would be right on the RS of the GTR (again big have car though).
Happy to take on that challenge (not in Aberdeen though) :beerchug:

Nice review though & a couple of the points i can concur with from the drives i've had in one. My biggest dislike which is really hard to explain is the feeling of disconnect when pushing on. The car (in a similar way to the R35 GT-R) proper motors, but it never quite feels like it's doing what it should be. As you say regarding body & wheels, it's a strange feeling & i guess after time you just get used to it, but you get the feeling it's not all driver & that the car's doing more of the work than you sometimes feel comfortable with.

This is far from being a criticism & perhaps just more profound for me having had the R35 GT-R.
Paul
03 Black AmD Stage3 C5 RS6 Saloon (Sold)
05 Blue DMS E60 M5 (Sold)
07 Blue DMS B7 RS4 Saloon (Sold)
10 White Nissan R35 GT-R Premium Edition SVM Stage 4 (Sold)
12 White D4 A8 TDi SE Executive (Sold)
14 Grey LCi F10 M5 (Rejected)
14 Blue DMS Stage 2 LCi F10 M5 (Sold)
17 Grey FFRR Autobiography (Rejected)
17 Black D4 A8 TDi Black Edition (Sold)
18 White APR Stage 2 Golf R 7.5 Estate

User avatar
Paulm
Top Gear
Posts: 1661
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:23 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Small Review

Post by Paulm » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:14 pm

W8PMC wrote:
Paulm wrote:
It would destroy the M5 and in slippy conditions would be right on the RS of the GTR (again big have car though).
Happy to take on that challenge (not in Aberdeen though) :beerchug:
that's a poor excuse :thumb:

maybe you are a better driver than me and that's fine but the M5 would have tried to kill me at least 5 times last night where as the RS just did what it was supposed to do. 2wd cant compete with 4wd in wet and slippy condidtions
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

Zeebuilder
3rd Gear
Posts: 271
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by Zeebuilder » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:01 am

25MPG??? Never in a million years would I get that unless I sat at 56mph for 10 solid miles!!

10biscuits
1st Gear
Posts: 77
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:23 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by 10biscuits » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:42 am

on MPG, I get way more than 25,the proof for me is I regularly drive to the French Alps,done it for too long to remember,every car I have had
is exact the same fill up 2twc and i'm left with half a tank when I get there,assure you I do not hang about,we go over the Jurals,set it in dynamic and wow what a car-computer says 30-31 mpg-back to thread--this is arguably the best car I have driven--Paulm-brakes will bed they are fantastic--go back in the year and you will see torque steer threads-twitchy back end,it's a lot more than that-can be positively dangerous
everyone new to a C7 SHOULD BE WARNED-however I posted recently I've just had a set of winter dun lops 21s fitted and the grip is fantastic
torque steer has almost gone-yes I should have gone for top view camera,I've kerbed once,that was in France where the kerbs are 4x higher than here ( slight exaggeration ) but you do get used to it- call me sad but here is greatest test for me for any car-when I leave work I actually detour home because I love driving the car-1 smitten owner,it's going to be hard to replace.

Zeebuilder
3rd Gear
Posts: 271
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Re: Small Review

Post by Zeebuilder » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:03 am

We I just drove Edinburgh-Manchester and average on way down was MPG24 over a 3.5 hour journey. Never went past 85ish and sat with CC on for a good hour constant 70mph!! But hey its smiles per gallon not miles per gallon!! Best car I have had!!

Post Reply

Return to “RS6 (C7 Typ 4G) 2013-2018”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 0770chris23 and 114 guests