New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by RSQ » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:13 pm

I spent a lot of time worrying about it and changed the spec twice but ended up on air.

Best decision I made. Had DRC on my B8 RS4 and yes whilst air does have a softer ride for 99.9% of the time it is better.

If you want a tight handling sports car spend your money on a Porsche or an R8, no matter what they do with the suspension it is still over 2 tonnes with typical Audi steering so not the last word in dynamics.

But having said all that it is just a hoot when you squeeze the throttle and what speed you lose in the corners you make up for in 1ms when you exit anyway. This car just destroys everything and pulls from 90mph the same way it pulls from 10mph (in Germany obviously).

I went for the sunroof; really glad I did it is a big black space inside otherwise.

Keyless very useful, surround cameras great, lane assist, active cruise etc great for motorways. Heated wheel once you have one all of your cars will do so.

And finally the Alcantara roof lining lifts the whole car to a more premium feel but will delay your order (and when you cut out the sunroof per square meter of what you get it is more expensive than lining it with gold).

I am not one for modding a car which listed at £100k and I paid £81k (IIRC) for but have admiration for those who are bold enough to do so. Mine is debadged, grey and anonymous.
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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by gsc » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:13 pm

kmpowell wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:18 am
Ceramic brakes - great, but the pros and cons have been discussed here many times. Personally I think they are a lot of money to spend for something that gives a significant benefit only in a limited number of circumstances. The cons for daily use outweigh the pros IMO.

DRC - agree, a must have, I have no idea why it isn't standard on the PE like he Sports exhaust. As Ian says probably just so Audi can charge for it.

Dynamic steering - the worst idea ever to come out of GMBH. Slow, dim-witted and kills any feel in the car.

189mph de-restricted - pointless unless you spend a lot of time on the Autobahns and/or willy waving at VMAX.
As this is now my fourth RS and having not waded into the ceramic debate before, I would say form experience that if you can have ceramics then get them because Audi RS brakes on the whole are pretty awful whether because of performance under repeated use, general fade, low speed squeal, pad deposition or 'vibration' with warped discs (see pad deposition). On a 2 tonne car I wouldn't go as far as say they are essential but they are on a day to day basis very very good. Whilst some may debate the cost to buy and maintain, in the same space of time on previous RS's I've probably spent the same amount in either replacement pad / disc combos or upgrading to aftermarket set up including lines, fluid and calipers.

Before I bought the '7, I had an RS6 for the weekend and even then there were instances when the steels started to give up a bit of their immense power on a regular basis.

It's all relative though, friends with BM's and Merc's complain the same to certain degrees and after sampling McLaren's set up it make you question Audi ceramics for bite and feel.

If anyone goes down the used route and a car has these on then big bonus!

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by RS6chris! » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:37 pm

Aye

Gotta say ceramics are ace for all applications

Great feel
Never seem to give up

And the winner for me...NO brake dust!
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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by Tadass910 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:57 pm

RS6chris! wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:37 pm
Aye

Gotta say ceramics are ace for all applications

Great feel
Never seem to give up

And the winner for me...NO brake dust!
Right to the spot :thumbs:

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by LeapingDeere » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:37 am

Bit of an update.

I've have two short (ish) demos, one Air and one DRC and both standard RS6 not PE's.

I can see both sides of the debate. IMHO I think if your really on it during a track day or a narrower road then you would want the DRC, I don't intent to track day it and to really feel DRC's benefits is a speed only done safely on a track day. Yes a bit more body roll, but not enough to worry me, considering it's weight.

I also think that the air would be more comfortable for passengers. I get the odd complaint from adult passengers in my RS4 that it's not the best in terms of comfort in the back on a bumpy road and I think air would alleviate that. I tend to think the DRC system priorities the drivers comfort over passenger comfort (which I can understand why) as sometimes it feels fine to me but isn't for the passengers.

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by Foxy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:45 am

Oh dear, I think you're going to get the wrath of the driving gods on here any minute now, the safer thing to do is say you're sold on dynamic pack plus and then go your own way, they will never find out!!!

Totally see your point, whatever some may think the RS6 is a grown up version of the 4, ultimately it is a compromise (and a very good one at that) so if you lean towards sporty feel do DRC, if not go air, either way you end up with a great all rounder.

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by MikeFish » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:36 am

Not at all. We just try to advise. I said to try both and decide for yourself and he did so job done.

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by LeapingDeere » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:34 pm

I'm sure this debate will roll on and on but I would of been happy with either if we only had the choice of one.

This car is really for me is about immense power in a practical package, and the its usability in all weathers. it's handling right at the limit for me is less important than the comfort factor.

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by gsc » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm

LeapingDeere wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:34 pm
I'm sure this debate will roll on and on but I would of been happy with either if we only had the choice of one.

This car is really for me is about immense power in a practical package, and the its usability in all weathers. it's handling right at the limit for me is less important than the comfort factor.
Understandable, I would have been happy with air but that the car I found used was a facelift and had dynamic pack plus of which the key point was ceramics, you'd take them and DRC as a Brucey bonus! Very few air cars out there with ceramics optioned on their own.

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by LeapingDeere » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:29 pm

gsc wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm
LeapingDeere wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:34 pm
I'm sure this debate will roll on and on but I would of been happy with either if we only had the choice of one.

This car is really for me is about immense power in a practical package, and the its usability in all weathers. it's handling right at the limit for me is less important than the comfort factor.
Understandable, I would have been happy with air but that the car I found used was a facelift and had dynamic pack plus of which the key point was ceramics, you'd take them and DRC as a Brucey bonus! Very few air cars out there with ceramics optioned on their own.
Would be interesting to find out how many air and carbon brake models were produced (if any)

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by LeapingDeere » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:30 pm

Im just off to the dealers to sort get it order signed off and done now.

Anyone know the lead times at the moment?

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Re: New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

Post by Foxy » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:09 pm

LeapingDeere wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:30 pm
Im just off to the dealers to sort get it order signed off and done now.

Anyone know the lead times at the moment?
I was told 12-16 weeks but got a build within 8, car now on its way.

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