Leo-RS wrote:My own car managed 0-60 in 3.3 and 0-100 in 7.7. To show this wasn't a one off, the Litchfield RS6 managed 3.4 to 60 and 7.9 to 100. Standard figures.
Those are not slow figures and would beat the early 485hp GTR's, match the MY11 530 cars and only just lag behind the newer 550hp cars. Do not believe Nissan's 2.7 0-60 claims or 7:20 Ring lap times. Utter nonsense other than manipulated promo. If you check out the vbox thread over on GTROC, most people are managing 3.1-3.2 60's and mid 7 100's from their 550hp GTR's. 99% of GTR owners would never lap the Nurburgring in under 8mins.
The engines go pop at around 630lbft so around 650-700hp dependent on torque capping but then even still there are a handful of Stage 4 owners with 600-630lbft that have had failures the older and older the cars get. There are lots of examples of premature failures.
The cabins are cheap and nasty and although they used to be a bargain on the earlier cars, Nissan upped the price pretty much 50% upto over £70k. It is just a Datsun at the end of the day. Yes, it's a remarkable car and yes it has ruffled feathers and set some amazing times but they are 2007 cars, coming up for 9yrs old and well past their best. Time for the markets to move on. The RS6 is far superior in pretty much every way (bar handling) but for most of us that never see a race track, handling is of secondary importance. For you to make the RS6 misbehave or under steer on a public road, you should be carted off. These are not cars for swinging out the back end on a twisty B road, they are family cruisers. Even then, a GTR is a sh*t track car unless your pockets are very deep. You'll get through a set of pads/discs and tyres if you drive it flat out around a few laps of the ring, it's a heavy old car too.
Tuned vs tuned? Well, the cars are in limited numbers and there isn't the same tuning scene for the RS6/7 as there is the GTR so yes, whilst there are no 7/8 sec 1/4m RS6's out there and there are tons of GTR's. Like for like, the RS6 will hold its own if not better.
A stage 1 RS6 should beat a stage 1 GTR in a straight. (700hp vs around 590)
A Stage 2 RS6 should beat a stage 4 GTR in a straight (750hp vs around 640) - Silly GTR tuner stage numbers. Stage 2 Audi is bolt ons. Stage 3 is hybrid/big turbo. Stage 4 on a GTR is stage 2 in an Audi RS (Bolt ons, standard turbos)
Stage 3 RS6/7's are said to be good for 1000bhp/900lbft on standard internals, gearbox and engine. Completely different league to what the GTR will do on standard components.
Paul, you are comparing a Stage 5 big turbo GTR to a standard RS6 hence why you believe it to be slow. Hardly a fair comparison but I can see why you have that opinion. Modified vs standard you will always get that, but cast your mind back to when your GTR was standard, there would be very little in it.
As for Air suspension vs DRC, i completely agree with you Paul, the air is fine, it's a bit like saying the RS6 needs the ceramics to stop. Only a professional race driver would get to the limits of the standard suspension. Everyone's entitled to their opinions but there are many of us that are really impressed with the air suspension on the car. I haven't driven the DRC car so don't know the difference, it's just I can't get the car to misbehave enough on public roads for me to think it needs bettered.
For me, times have moved on. There are far better nicer cars out there that you would spend your £75k on. The RS6 being one of them. The GTR is a 2007 car. It's 2016 in a few days.
A little harsh Leo as let's be honest the GT-R vs. will still be quicker across the relevant spread of stats. Be that 0-**, 1/4mile & lap times, albeit the gap isn't a huge one. Stock MY14+ GT-R's will take a stock C7 RS6 all day long & the same applies at Stage 1 (after this as you say the naming conventions go nuts so kind of hard to compare. That said, the RS6 would start to pull the GT-R in once North of around 80mph.
Defo bang on the money regarding how they look/feel & yes they're very dated now.
The o/p was asking about lap times not 0-** times & although the 2.7 is somewhat staged, the newer variants will certainly in stock form hit 3 if launched.
My M5 can hold it's own against my old GT-R on track & on the road, however it's putting out an extra 100bhp & 50lbsft, if i was only Stage 1 tuned then that wouldn't be the case & it's still very obvious on track where the GT-R has the advantage, even being down on power etc.
I'd certainly not take a GT-R over a C7 RS6, but definitely would & did over a C6.
It was tough going back to a slower (straight line) car when I went from the c6 to the b8. But I can hustle the rs4 round the ring over a minute faster than the c6 - despite a 300hp deficit. So - slower? From point a to point b? It depends where you're defining a and b as lol. In a straight line the rs6 will always win. But show it some corners and it'll be left seriously wanting.
Yes he had traffic - but that's never an excuse. Everyone would be faster without traffic 
