RS6 Performance Figures.... 0-60/100mph

[Leo-RS]

It dyno'd at 690 on the Stage 1 but it was their first MY16 car and practically brand new, they've made a few changes since then and found a few more horses so 700 would be more than achievable on a MY16 now. Should be up at around 750 after the tweak I would imagine.

[MartayMcFly]

Leo, you done any more tests now the tempa have dropped a bit and then engine loosened up a bit?

It didn't stay standard long enough to get any further figures out of it I'm afraid.

Stage 1 (tune only) it went 2.9 and 6.6 to 100.
Stage 2 I suspect will chop at least another half a second on the 100, 60 is limited by traction and wheel spin, not great this time of year so haven't tested that yet.

This is really not helping my 'leave it standard' plan.

[vwcheung]

wait till you see what it can do top end with no limiter

[doodlebug]

One does wonder what that will do for the transmission long term. Must be on the limit as it is. That's a <beep> load of additional force to shove through the drive.

[MikeFish]

I wonder if the figures will be the same for the performance edition as my undersranding is that the only real difference is a bit more boost. Is boost affected by the stage 1 map?

[VantageRS]

They are good figures. How ever i have seen the RS6 struggle against some cars that it should have beat if those figures are correct.
I have seen it beat by a Porsche Panamera Turbo, BMW M5 and Jaguar F type R AWD. Not to mention the GTR which left it.

[vwcheung]

Maybe down to the driver? when I attended Terminal Velocity3 I was up against a 458 Speciale which I beat and also a 997 turbo with 1000 bhp, I was leading the 911 from the start to around 120 mph, then he just took off. The race was 1.5 miles long and I achieved 186mph

[Leo-RS]

Depends on the race,

Drag events, the RS6 should beat all those cars mentioned (bar the GTR), especially if it launches properly. M5 is probably better up top 100+ as it doesn't have 4 wheels to drive and the additional weight of the Quattro drivetrain.

GTR's are hit or miss too, the published 2.7 0-60mph figures from Nissan are nonsense and are heavily manipulated by best case scenario, Perfect weather conditions, weight, aero, sticky tyres, lightweight wheels, trick suspension etc. Nissan were accused of it when they set the GTR up for its 'famous' Nurburgring lap time. If you buy one today, you will struggle to replicate any of their published times. Audi on the other hand are the exact opposite, they tell us it will do 60 in 3.7 (3.9 to 62) and it will easily do sub 3.5 every time.

At a recent drag event that I attended, there was a brand new 65 GTR running 11.5 down the 1/4 and a 64 plate standard RS6 running 11.4. That's just one example of course and there will be results the other way around too but you have to compare apples and apples. The GTR should be marginally quicker due to running a better power to weight ratio.

The stage 2 750hp RS6's are running down the 1/4m in 10.5secs, (MRC and APR have Videos of these runs) Not a lot is keeping up with a 10.5 sec 1/4m car, even Stage 4 GTR's (650hp) struggle with mid 10 1/4's so once properly tuned they are up there with the very best. (There's quite a few vids on YT where the power claims look bollocks to me, RS6's 'tuned' with resistor style tuning boxes etc)

Mikefish, the Stage 1 boosts at upto 1.85 bar, I don't recall what the standard map boosts the turbos at though, I do recall reading 1.5-1.6 bar though elsewhere.

[Paulm]

Mikefish, the Stage 1 boosts at upto 1.85 bar, I don't recall what the standard map boosts the turbos at though, I do recall reading 1.5-1.6 bar though elsewhere.

Is that reading done with VCDS? so that included atmospheric??

What you boosting now on stage 2?

[Paulm]

They are good figures. How ever i have seen the RS6 struggle against some cars that it should have beat if those figures are correct.
I have seen it beat by a Porsche Panamera Turbo, BMW M5 and Jaguar F type R AWD. Not to mention the GTR which left it.

M5 is a monster engine. I hate to say it but miles better then the Audi until. hopefully tuning the audi will change that.

[Leo-RS]

Paul, no, I've subtracted 1000mb from those figures, VCDS is showing upto 2850mbar on some of my logs, minus the 1000mb thereabouts for atmospheric leaves 1.85bar

Not sure if Stage 2 boosts harder or they just play with more timing, not had it tweaked yet.

[Paulm]

wow, 1.85 is pretty mental. My GTR was only doing 1.4bar for over 750bhp. no wonder 750ish on the RS is flat out and the CC is struggling to control temps.

Even on smaller turbos boost is around 1.55bar for 750bhp on the GTR.

deffo need to sort the cooling out.

[VantageRS]

Listening to you guys i did not realise that the RS6 was a tunners dream.

[IanH755]

Putting turbos inside the V limits the physical size that they can be so they have to run much higher boost than turbos in the older cars to reach the same power levels. The extra boost also makes extra heat which in turn makes cooling a pain, plus the turbo's location makes using a bigger Charge cooler (or even moving to SMIC's) a much bigger problem due to the lack of space to do so.

[Leo-RS]

Slight correction Paul, looking at my requested boost tables for the stage 1 tune the specified values are around 1.75bar max, on upchange, it looks like its overboosting at 1.85bar momentarily before meeting the specified boost going back up the rev range. The reason for the slight overboost on gear change will be due to the fact I've fitted the full Milltek to the Stage 1 and not had it adapted but even still, looks like the figure for Stage 1 is around 1.75bar boost. Not sure on Stage 2 yet, will be getting it tweaked later this week but I'm sure they do more with the timing element rather than additional boost on Stage 2.

If you have VCDS, I would be interested to hear what the standard turbo requested boost pressures are. 1.5-1.6 bar is ringing bells so yes, I think they are whacked up fairly high from factory.

You could go bigger turbos and induce more lag I suppose but I guess Audi wanted smaller more responsive units. GTR blowers do make good power with relatively low boost Then again, GTR engines and transmissions need to be beefed up around the 650-700hp/650lbft mark, the 4.0TT engines can go way beyond that making it a tuners wet dream

Good points from Ian above